The Power Play Thread

[417]

I really think Kotkaniemi on the right half wall for the one timer could be a good threat. Maybe not as big a threat as Galchenyuk (yet), but still would be a good threat. They'd tried Lehkonen there for god's sake. it's ridiculous.

Maybe but I actually like Kotkaniemi on the left side and he seems to prefer it there as well.

Also, Drouin or Petry at the top of the diamond as a QB could develop into a threat. If they cover Weber too closely, Drouin/Petry and Kotakanimi could create on the right side.

Drouin is a reluctant shooter and Petry misses the net 8 times out of 10, so i'm not sure how effective either can be in that role.

I guess ideally, Drouin SHOULD be the one to QB the PP from the top of the diamond, but as long as he refuses to use his shot, it won't work.

 

[Scintillating10]

I remember when Guy Carbonneau was coach here we had a great powerplay. Maybe, bring him back as specialty coach? Take some responsibility away from Muller? Then again we had Kovalev back then. Maybe it wasn't Carbonneau.

We are in playoff position with worse powerplay in league. Can you imagine where we would be with a good powerplay? Instead of looking to make trades in second half of season to improve team. Maybe biggest improvement we can make is fixing the powerplay? The team is already here?

 

[FF de Mars]

What about Kotkaniemi at the point? He has a knack with the puck and a long reach. He doesn't mind shoting yet has vision and makes good passes.

 

[417]

I remember when Guy Carbonneau was coach here we had a great powerplay. Maybe, bring him back as specialty coach? Take some responsibility away from Muller? Then again we had Kovalev back then. Maybe it wasn't Carbonneau.

We are in playoff position with worse powerplay in league. Can you imagine where we would be with a good powerplay? Instead of looking to make trades in second half of season to improve team. Maybe biggest improvement we can make is fixing the powerplay? The team is already here?

It was Markov, Kovalev, Souray, Streit...these are the guys that made the PP work

Not Guy Carbonneau.

 

[FF de Mars]

It was Markov, Kovalev, Souray, Streit...these are the guys that made the PP work

Not Guy Carbonneau.

Didn't Julien have the worst PP ever when he won the cup with the Bruins? Maybe Julien needs a better assistant coach handling the powerplay. It doesn't look like his cup of tea.

 

[417]

Didn't Julien have the worst PP ever when he won the cup with the Bruins? Maybe Julien needs a better assistant coach handling the powerplay. It doesn't look like his cup of tea.

I think coaches can tweak things but PP success is largely dependent on the individuals executing on the ice.

The Habs don't have natural goal scorers, they get away with it are ES by typically outworking the other team.

But on the PP, with an extra man and the need to beat your opponent with skill...

There deficiencies really come to the forefont.

Until the PP personnel gets a different look, and by look I mean different players who arent currently a part of this team at the moment, I don't expect things to change drastically.

 

[Saundies]

I think coaches can tweak things but PP success is largely dependent on the individuals executing on the ice.

The Habs don't have natural goal scorers, they get away with it are ES by typically outworking the other team.

But on the PP, with an extra man and the need to beat your opponent with skill...

There deficiencies really come to the forefont.

Until the PP personnel gets a different look, and by look I mean different players who arent currently a part of this team at the moment, I don't expect things to change drastically.

This is why we need someone like Panarin; a dynamic player who can make skilled plays and is a threat to score at any given time. We have guys with skill, but IMO aren't in the "dynamic" tier (at least not yet.)

 

[Habs]

How about bring Big Mac up for a few games and plant him in front of the net to create some chaos? Instead of stupid Agostino or another useless wanker. It can't hurt.

Or is there a waiver issue if he were to come up for a few?

 

[417]

This is why we need someone like Panarin; a dynamic player who can make skilled plays and is a threat to score at any given time. We have guys with skill, but IMO aren't in the "dynamic" tier (at least not yet.)

Not dymanic in the art of goal scoring no...

We've got high effort guys (Gallagher, Byron, Lehkonen)
We've got great playmakers (Drouin, Domi, Kotkaniemi)
We've got spped guys (Byron and the team in general)

But it says a lot when our "best" goal scorer is Brendan Gallagher, who no offense to him, but he's not going to snipe one past a goalie on the PP too often.

 

[417]

How about bring Big Mac up for a few games and plant him in front of the net to create some chaos? Instead of stupid Agostino or another useless wanker. It can't hurt.

Or is there a waiver issue if he were to come up for a few?

McCarron is hurt and there's talk it might be long term - as in out of the season.

 

[26Mats]

Maybe but I actually like Kotkaniemi on the left side and he seems to prefer it there as well.


Drouin is a reluctant shooter and Petry misses the net 8 times out of 10, so i'm not sure how effective either can be in that role.

I guess ideally, Drouin SHOULD be the one to QB the PP from the top of the diamond, but as long as he refuses to use his shot, it won't work.

Kotkaniemi is good on the left side, but I'm a firm believer in the one-timer. And, I don't like Weber up top as the QB. I want Weber out wide to stretch the d, and he has to be on the left side. Further, Kotkaniemi has a really good one timer (as we saw on the 5 on 5 goal he scored on the Drouin set up). I started seeing Drouin shoot more when Weber was far off to the left and was being heavily covered. It left a lane open for him...

Petry missing the net is a mystery to me. He's got a rocket (as we saw in the skills competition. And it's really not that hard to put a good low shot on net. But Petry hasn't yet learned to play a 2 on 1 on defense, so I really don't know what to say.

 

[26Mats]

This is why we need someone like Panarin; a dynamic player who can make skilled plays and is a threat to score at any given time. We have guys with skill, but IMO aren't in the "dynamic" tier (at least not yet.)

Would love to get Panarin, Stone or even Duchene this summer. But it's a long shot to land one of them. I would trade a first (since it probably won't be lottery especially with an acquisition like this) and a decent prospect (preferably Ikonen or Olofsen or Primeau or Ylonen) to get one with an extension at the deadline. Plus we have a lot of 40ish point roster players that could be included in a deal (Armia, Byron, Lehkonen, Shaw).

 

[1909]

Solution: Bring back Marc-André Bergeron....

 

[1909]

Maybe MB should try to acquire Goligoski from Arizona. The guy is a PP specialist.

 

[Habs]

McCarron is hurt and there's talk it might be long term - as in out of the season.

Ah darn, I haven't been following Laval, thanks for clarifying. Is Juulsen hurt as well?

 

[417]

Ah darn, I haven't been following Laval, thanks for clarifying. Is Juulsen hurt as well?

Yes though i'm not sure on the severity of his injury.

and no problem!

 

[Leon Lucius Black]

Kotkaniemi - Domi - Drouin
Weber - Petry

Throw those five guys on the ice and have there be some actually movement on the PP. I remember back when we had the Kovalev/Markov/Souray days other teams not only had to worry about Souray or Kovalev's one timers, but also had to worry about Markov pinching down low to the back door for passes. It also gives options having Drouin for one timers on the half boards and him being able to set up Weber/Petry on the back end.

Julien keeps worrying about throwing out guys like Armia, Gallagher, Agostino etc. to screen in front of the net, what does it matter when we can barely even get shots off lol.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Interesting

 

[26Mats]

Interesting

I like it.

Will we finally see Kotkaniemi on the right half wall and Weber on the left? If so, and this doesn't work, I will no longer blame the coaching staff...

Not sure why Hudon's in front of the net.

Love Petry on the left half wall and Domi on the right for the 2nd unit, although I'm not sure you don't want to swap Domi and Tatar and load up the 1st unit.

 

[the]

There’s a reason why Andrei Markov was called The General.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

We had one (Markov) but Bergevin didn't think he really needed to be treated with much respect in contract talks, or in talking about him to the media.

But I think between Kotkaniemi, Drouin, Domi, and Petry, we should be fine.

Jean Beliveau was good on the PP too.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

I think the Habs need to just focus on getting shots on the PP and crashing the net. Just forget about goals altogether and just make the point of each power play to get the most shots that they can get.

 

[26Mats]

I think the Habs need to just focus on getting shots on the PP and crashing the net. Just forget about goals altogether and just make the point of each power play to get the most shots that they can get.

I also think they need to shoot more and gets pucks to the net more. In particular I'm a big fan of the one timer, and having the right people take the one-timers. To me, that's Weber from the upper/mid left side and Kotkaniemi from the upper/mid right side. And, I think Drouin is the best QB from up top. I think this formation could have success. And, it looks like Julien is going to try it.

 

[Belial]

They're overthinking and overcomplicating things right now due to the whole pressure.

Should simplify everything, stop trying fancy stuff, dump it in and go get it, win your battle on the board, get it back to the point =Weber/Petry bomb!

 

[1909]

They're overthinking and overcomplicating things right now due to the whole pressure.

Should simplify everything, stop trying fancy stuff, dump it in and go get it, win your battle on the board, get it back to the point =Weber/Petry bomb!

They don't have players to win fights on the board. They have to arrive in the opponent's zone already in control of the puck. The dumping won't help at all.