The Power Play Thread

[Kudo Shinichi]

No Kotkaniemi hasn't been tried on the right half wall. Nor has Weber in Ovechkin's office, as opposed to on the point. Nor has Armia in front of the net.

Kotka was tried on the right half wall earlier in the season, and Armia was also tried near the net several times.
Not sure if Weber was tried on Ovy's spot this year, but I do remember he was tried there last year and it didnt work at all

 

[Picaroon]

What about swapping Domi and Drouin in your proposal? Domi is a better, more poised playmaker than Drouin. I wouldn't trust Drouin's tendency for turnovers being the last man back, but with his lethal shot and great stick handling, he could work well in the slot. Otherwise, I like your ideas.

 

[Legend123]

Kotka was tried on the right half wall earlier in the season, and Armia was also tried near the net several times.
Not sure if Weber was tried on Ovy's spot this year, but I do remember he was tried there last year and it didnt work at all

Weber, unlike Ovy, does not have the mobility to always stay in movement on the PP. Without that strength he becomes useless in that spot.

 

[ECWHSWI]

I agree with Weber being on the half wall like Ovi, we should try to run a setup like Washingtons PP and use Weber like Ovi.

Its not like Ovi the PP run through Ovi, hes a deadly 1 timer threat tho and forces opposing players to play safe. Opens up space for everyone else on the ice.

Sure, Habs have passers like Backstrom and Kuznetzov lol

 

[26Mats]

Kotka was tried on the right half wall earlier in the season, and Armia was also tried near the net several times.
Not sure if Weber was tried on Ovy's spot this year, but I do remember he was tried there last year and it didnt work at all

Kotkaniemi has been tried on the left half wall and on the low right side. Armia has not been tried in front of the net (Gallagher, Shaw, and Lehkonen's spot).

 

[26Mats]

Sure, Habs have passers like Backstrom and Kuznetzov lol

We had one (Markov) but Bergevin didn't think he really needed to be treated with much respect in contract talks, or in talking about him to the media.

But I think between Kotkaniemi, Drouin, Domi, and Petry, we should be fine.

 

[Koivu11]

Lets just reacquire Galchenyuk

MB would never re-acquire him. He saw him as part of the “attitude” problem.

 

[TT1]

Sure, Habs have passers like Backstrom and Kuznetzov lol

Domi and Drouin are budget versions

 

[26Mats]

MB would never re-acquire him. He saw him as part of the “attitude” problem.

Yeah, but really what we had was a center-problem, and a painfully slow and immobile left-d problem.

The real fix was we now have a center line of: Domi, Danault, Kotkaniemi, Chaput, as opposed to Drouin, Danault, past-his-expiration-date-Plekanec, Froese. And we now have a left d side of Mete, Reilly, Kulak, instead of rookie-Mete, Alzner, Schlemko, and a healthy Weber.

Galchenyuk wasn't the problem.

 

[scrubadam]

Its just bad all around. The talent on the 1 PP is ok with Drouin and Weber. But Drouin fails to execute sometimes. Also zone entries are horrible and they never win the FO. Lekhonen is a PP 2 guy but not on the 1st PP. So its really lacking a talented shooter if Weber is taken out.

When you have Agostino and Armia on your PP you have a lack of talent. Shaw will help either PP but still those are not PP guys. And yes its up to CJ coaching, but the choices after that aren't great either. Byron/KK/Lek/Danault aren't big PP producers.

So the talent is a problem, but its compounded by the fact that they can't enter the zone, or win face off. And then teams just cheat on Weber.

 

[Legend123]

MB would never re-acquire him. He saw him as part of the “attitude” problem.

Who cares, since Chucky wont even consider signing here and teams dont acquire players just to send them back to the same team in the same season of the trade. But I would openly take him

 

[overlords]

Domi and Drouin are budget versions

Bargains, one might say

 

[CAR3YPR1CE]

PP1:
---- 15 ----
11 ------ 90
-- 26 - 13 --


PP2:
---- 24 ----
40 ---- 62
-- 6 - 92 --

 

[26Mats]

PP1:
---- 15 ----
11 ------ 90
-- 26 - 13 --


PP2:
---- 24 ----
40 ---- 62
-- 6 - 92 --

For me it's:

PP1:
---- 40/11 ----
6 ------ 15
-- 26/13 ---
---- 92 --


PP2:
---- 24/65/62 ----
40/11 ---- 90
-- 26/13 ---
--- Reilly --​

 

[HBDay]

Weber, unlike Ovy, does not have the mobility to always stay in movement on the PP. Without that strength he becomes useless in that spot.

Actually, I find it comical how little ovi actually moves on the powerplay.

 

[Legend123]

Actually, I find it comical how little ovi actually moves on the powerplay.

2 goals... so what?
You also have to realize Ovy barely takes any time to rip his shot off. Weber needs to wind up big time giving the defenders a lot of time to recover if they are not in a position to block his shot.
Weber simply cant do what Ovy is doing.

 

[HBDay]

2 goals... so what?

I'm not arguing.Watch his games, I always have a laugh, he looks like a kid standing in the outfield during a baseball game, bored as heck until the puck is about to come his way. He literally doesn't try he just waits, it's glorious.

 

[HBDay]

2 goals... so what?
You also have to realize Ovy barely takes any time to rip his shot off. Weber needs to wind up big time giving the defenders a lot of time to recover if they are no

2 goals... so what?
You also have to realize Ovy barely takes any time to rip his shot off. Weber needs to wind up big time giving the defenders a lot of time to recover if they are not in a position to block his shot.
Weber simply cant do what Ovy is doing.

t in a position to block his shot.
Weber simply cant do what Ovy is doing.

Here is literally every goal from the ovi spot by ovi, a rebuttal to your 2 goals so what. Earlier he moved a bit more, if you go towards the end where he has fully accepted his fate as trigger man, itsi hilarious.

 

[HBDay]

2 goals... so what?
You also have to realize Ovy barely takes any time to rip his shot off. Weber needs to wind up big time giving the defenders a lot of time to recover if they are not in a position to block his shot.
Weber simply cant do what Ovy is doing.

Oh, I don't disagree that weber can't do what ovi is doing. But ovis goals from the ovi spot isn't because of his mobility. It's his once in history shot.

 

[Legend123]

Oh, I don't disagree that weber can't do what ovi is doing. But ovis goals from the ovi spot isn't because of his mobility. It's his once in history shot.

I dont know. I get the sense from watching Weber on the PP that he just is very stiff out there and his shot although dangerous takes too long to get off. And the bad thing is hes got all the respect around the entire league so i doubt anyone is gonna tell him what hes doing wrong or dare remove him from the pp and try other combos.
Maybe i was wrong in my analysis of Ovy that he is always in movement. Regardless he stills moves alot more than Weber. But then again, you see players like Laine not move at all and look at him score.
Im convinced the problem is actually his shot arsenal/usage. It takes to long to get his slapper off and doesnt use any other shots to score on the PP. Laine and Ovy both shoot at lightning speed. Weber, unfort for us, cant do that.

 

[26Mats]

I dont know. I get the sense from watching Weber on the PP that he just is very stiff out there and his shot although dangerous takes too long to get off. And the bad thing is hes got all the respect around the entire league so i doubt anyone is gonna tell him what hes doing wrong or dare remove him from the pp and try other combos.
Maybe i was wrong in my analysis of Ovy that he is always in movement. Regardless he stills moves alot more than Weber. But then again, you see players like Laine not move at all and look at him score.
Im convinced the problem is actually his shot arsenal/usage. It takes to long to get his slapper off and doesnt use any other shots to score on the PP. Laine and Ovy both shoot at lightning speed. Weber, unfort for us, cant do that.

Weber's definitely got to learn to get his shot off on a one timer quickly, even if it's not his full powered shot.

Many times I've seen the puck go over to him and he doesn't shoot it because it isn't exactly where he wants it. Just shoot it!

 

[Legend123]

Weber's definitely got to learn to get his shot off on a one timer quickly, even if it's not his full powered shot.

Many times I've seen the puck go over to him and he doesn't shoot it because it isn't exactly where he wants it. Just shoot it!

Exactly my thinking

 

[Habs Halifax]

No short term or long term solutions IMO. Best we can hope for is middle of the pack PP.

 

[417]

Actually, I find it comical how little ovi actually moves on the powerplay.

Ovi doesn't have to move because the Caps have other threats all over the ice...whether it's Carlson, Backstrom, Kuznetsov, Oshie.

Variety is the best PP weapon.

The Habs have NO variety...it's Shea Weber or nothing.

 

[26Mats]

Ovi doesn't have to move because the Caps have other threats all over the ice...whether it's Carlson, Backstrom, Kuznetsov, Oshie.

Variety is the best PP weapon.

The Habs have NO variety...it's Shea Weber or nothing.

I really think Kotkaniemi on the right half wall for the one timer could be a good threat. Maybe not as big a threat as Galchenyuk (yet), but still would be a good threat. They'd tried Lehkonen there for god's sake. it's ridiculous.

Also, Drouin or Petry at the top of the diamond as a QB could develop into a threat. If they cover Weber too closely, Drouin/Petry and Kotakanimi could create on the right side.