OT: The Pittsburgher Thread - Mike Tomlin = Groundhog Day

[Andy99]

Always makes my day when the Patriots lose

 

[JTG]

I thought Driskel play a hell of a game. Really impressive game from him.

 

[Hockeygod66]

I thought Driskel play a hell of a game. Really impressive game from him.

He did play good but the Steelers have a history of letting mediocre to bad QB's own them. Tebow and brock osweiller had career games against them. And that's just Denver.

 

[JTG]

He did play good but the Steelers have a history of letting mediocre to bad QB's own them. Tebow and brock osweiller had career games against them. And that's just Denver.

Eh - it was a bit different. I actually thought he made good plays. When the Steelers patently lose to bad QBs there are always a slew of reasons why that QB was successful, unrelated to that QBs abilities.

Driskel made throws and our pass rush was giving him practically no time. I actually had no idea who the guy was until yesterday. He ran a 4.56 at the combine at 6'4, 235 and he has a really strong arm. It appears injuries have hampered him thus far in his career though, being cut from every team because he is hurt.

 

[Double-Shift Lasse]

Eh - it was a bit different. I actually thought he made good plays. When the Steelers patently lose to bad QBs there are always a slew of reasons why that QB was successful, unrelated to that QBs abilities.

Driskel made throws and our pass rush was giving him practically no time. I actually had no idea who the guy was until yesterday. He ran a 4.56 at the combine at 6'4, 235 and he has a really strong arm. It appears injuries have hampered him thus far in his career though, being cut from every team because he is hurt.

He was the backup in Cincy for a few seasons - living in Ohio, you see these things on Sundays...

He looked good, especially his mobility, every time I saw him, but the team never won.

 

[SouthGeorge]

Love me some Maple but Metcalf with another huge play last night on DPOY.

 

[OnMyOwn]

I actually watched that entire game last night. Russel Wilson is the best QB in football, no question, IMO. His IQ is insane and he makes perfect reads and throws regularly.

DK is a physical animal. Gilmore had to play off of him due to speed and he got bullied after the catch cuz dude is so big.

 

[ziggyjoe212]

I actually watched that entire game last night. Russel Wilson is the best QB in football, no question, IMO. His IQ is insane and he makes perfect reads and throws regularly.

DK is a physical animal. Gilmore had to play off of him due to speed and he got bullied after the catch cuz dude is so big.

I couldn't believe what they said during the broadcast that Wilson has never received a single MVP vote in his career. How is that even possible. He's gotta be the most underrated player in the league.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

Love me some Maple but Metcalf with another huge play last night on DPOY.

Claypool had an 84 yard TD and DJ had 94 yards and a TD, along with a great punt return for a TD he got screwed on.

Can’t say I’m wishing for Metcalf TBTH.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

Wilson and Mahomes are in their own stratosphere as far as I’m concerned. Nobody close to those two.

 

[The Old Master]

The Steelers are setting themselves up to crash and burn when Ben retires. Their next QB will be drafted. I suspect with a pretty high pick.

with the way the team played ......they might not want to wait.

 

[T1K]

Wilson and Mahomes are in their own stratosphere as far as I’m concerned. Nobody close to those two.

Lamar is definitely in the same stratosphere

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

Lamar is definitely in the same stratosphere

Nah. I’m not a Lamar hater but it’s not even close for me.

 

[VanIsle]

I am just glad the Steelers didn't get hit with the injury bug like almost every other team in the league did.

49ers got demolished, Saquon, Lock, McCaffery, what a rough day on the gridiron.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

Lamar is definitely in the same stratosphere

I think we should wait until he wins a playoff game, let alone a SB like those two have.

Until he has playoff success, he’s just another Vick, who was mostly a playoff burn out.

 

[T1K]

Nah. I’m not a Lamar hater but it’s not even close for me.

Fair enough, agree to disagree

 

[T1K]

I think we should wait until he wins a playoff game, let alone a SB like those two have.

Until he has playoff success, he’s just another Vick, who was mostly a playoff burn out.

Vick never won MVP. Lamar has only had 1 opportunity to play in the Playoffs since he took over in his rookie year when the Ravens were already dead in the water. So, it’s kinda unfair to compare the playoff successes of the other two guys considering Lamar is only 23 (same age as Burrow believe it or not!) and has only been in the playoffs once, but do understand that perspective.

In the regular season he’s got the following record:
Rookie: 6-1
Y2: 13-2
Y3: 2-0

That absolutely screams elite to me, and is a very similar career arch as Mahomes and Wilson.

Also FYI, Wilson has never gotten a single MVP vote before, let alone winning it, but maybe this is the year.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

Vick never won MVP. Lamar has only had 1 opportunity to play in the Playoffs since he took over in his rookie year when the Ravens were already dead in the water. So, it’s kinda unfair to compare the playoff successes of the other two guys considering Lamar is only 23 (same age as Burrow believe it or not!) and has only been in the playoffs once, but do understand that perspective.

In the regular season he’s got the following record:
Rookie: 6-1
Y2: 13-2
Y3: 2-0

That absolutely screams elite to me, and is a very similar career arch as Mahomes and Wilson.

Also FYI, Wilson has never gotten a single MVP vote before, let alone winning it, but maybe this is the year.

Jackson has been in two playoff games and lost both. Right now, he simply hasn’t proven he can win in the playoffs.

The Ravens were an absolute powerhouse last season and an overwhelming favorite and Jackson shit the bed with two picks and uneven play.

He’s done well in the regular season, but until he proves he can win a playoff game, it seems pretty odd to put him in the class of two great QBs with SB rings on their fingers.

 

[PensandCaps]

Good thing is that the Steelers schedule is HORRIBLE.

Best teams they'll face is the Ravens...and then the Bills? or Titans?

 

[Iggy Smalls]

With what I saw from Driskel I have significant concerns now about the Titans, Ravens, Jaguars, Bills, Cowboys, and Bills. Washington is also a developing team that I don't think can be overlooked either. The secondary has to improve fast.

 

[T1K]

Jackson has been in two playoff games and lost both. Right now, he simply hasn’t proven he can win in the playoffs.

The Ravens were an absolute powerhouse last season and an overwhelming favorite and Jackson shit the bed with two picks and uneven play.

He’s done well in the regular season, but until he proves he can win a playoff game, it seems pretty odd to put him in the class of two great QBs with SB rings on their fingers.

Whoops my bad, I didn’t realize they made the playoffs in 2018. I don’t think it’s odd at all. I think it’s unfair to criticize him for losing in the playoffs at ages 21 and 22 when some QBs are still playing college ball at that age, I feel Lamar definitely has the pedigree to win a SB one day. Mahomes won his Super Bowl at 24 and Wilson at 25. Lamar is only 23.

 

[T1K]

With what I saw from Driskel I have significant concerns now about the Titans, Ravens, Jaguars, Bills, Cowboys, and Bills. Washington is also a developing team that I don't think can be overlooked either. The secondary has to improve fast.

Add Houston to the list too. Washington isn’t a concern, but totally agree with the rest. Our secondary has been very poor this year. Hopefully we can luck out and Fuller will be out this week (hamstring) and AJ Brown next week (bone bruise).

 

[bigdaddyk88]

With what I saw from Driskel I have significant concerns now about the Titans, Ravens, Jaguars, Bills, Cowboys, and Bills. Washington is also a developing team that I don't think can be overlooked either. The secondary has to improve fast.

Minshew destroyed the titans defense and the Broncos should have beaten the titans. Jags Cowboys no defense. Bills and Ravens are legit. Houston and Washington lack many true weapons both have 1 good Wr and bad O lines. Washington does have elite front 4

 

[bigdaddyk88]

Good thing is that the Steelers schedule is HORRIBLE.

Best teams they'll face is the Ravens...and then the Bills? or Titans?

Perfect year to play the nfc east and AFC south both divisions look like 8 wins can win it

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

Whoops my bad, I didn’t realize they made the playoffs in 2018. I don’t think it’s odd at all. I think it’s unfair to criticize him for losing in the playoffs at ages 21 and 22 when some QBs are still playing college ball at that age, I feel Lamar definitely has the pedigree to win a SB one day. Mahomes won his Super Bowl at 24 and Wilson at 25. Lamar is only 23.

Maybe he can win a SB, but again all we have are the current facts that he is 0-2 in the playoffs.

Maybe he will be in that tier with those two at some point, possibly this year.

However, you can’t put a guy who hasn’t even won a playoff game in the same tier as elite guys who have won SBs.

I’m not even saying he has to win a SB this season, but he most definitely has to show he can win in the playoffs.