OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: Good Riddance, I say

[BlackAndGold87]

You're not helping yourself here

I am, I'm making fun of you and you're getting irritated.

 

[KIRK]

Can't believe how night and day this defense is compared to the start of the year, on top of being the most penalized team in the league by a mile...

Someone deserves an award for this turn around.

Get back to me after that SD, NE, @No run over 4 weeks.

That's when we'll know for sure.

 

[KIRK]

It had to have been nice for ben to shut up those smack talkers.

Whether he did or he didn't, it was stupid to think the right play was to pull him. Not with the game within 2 scores.

 

[KIRK]

Glad we won, but sheesh. Belicheck is laughing somewhere.

I don't know. For the first time in a long time, he's looking at a Steelers team that instead of finding ways to lose actually finds a way to win. One doesn't laugh at teams like that.

 

[LOGiK]

Oh yea Kirk, FYI

If they had kicked that extra point, they would have only needed a FG to WIN.

But THEY HAD TO GO FOR 2???

No, it was a decision that I disagreed with and some laughed at my thought process. That's what's wrong with message board and much of life.... can't go against the herd or you are castigated and ridiculed.


God Bless America

I wasn't on the boards posting but I too was watching and wondering what the hell were they going for 2 pts in the third quarter when they would only need that FG to win and not tie instead of having to only settle for chancing two - 2pt conversions.
To me that was a bad call and seemed like they were settling for the tie? I don't get it.

 

[KIRK]

If the Jags get a first down on any of their last 3 drives, it's over.

But they didn't.

 

[Night Shift]

Man you upset today huh?

The Fire Tomlin groupie's always make my day.

I'm highly confident like last year it will be another one and done. Im not a betting man but id probably put money on it. Tomlin is probably the worst but yet luckiest coach I've ever seen

Agree with you on Sullivan however. Too early to fire him even on a bad year. But next year will seal his fate if he gets off to another bad start.

 

[turd]

Since I'm not a bright individual. I'll note that It's been 6 wins in a row since Tomlin lost the locker room.

And 15-1-1 in their last 17 road games. And I thought Tomlin was a terrible coach on the road or something?

 

[PensandCaps]

Fire Tomlin!!! *derp*

Certainly won in spite of him.

Who the f*** called that spike?

 

[turd]

I'm highly confident like last year it will be another one and done. Im not a betting man but id probably put money on it. Tomlin is probably the worst but yet luckiest coach I've ever seen.

Jesus wept.

 

[The Old Master]

Get back to me after that SD, NE, @No run over 4 weeks.

That's when we'll know for sure.

at least we will have one more win going in to those games.

 

[KIRK]

I wasn't on the boards posting but I too was watching and wondering what the hell were they going for 2 pts in the third quarter when they would only need that FG to win and not tie instead of having to only settle for chancing two - 2pt conversions.
To me that was a bad call and seemed like they were settling for the tie? I don't get it.

Because until 3 minutes left in the game, your offense was struggling to move the ball, so how many more times could you have counted on have a chance to score.

And because for most of the game you struggled to stop the run.

No way to think the Steelers would get 4 possessions in the 4th quarter.

@JohnTitor is a second guessing yinzer who wanted Dobbs in the game. That says it all.

 

[ColePens]

@bambamcam4ever

Clocking the ball 1st and goal. Bad. Not trying to run at least once with a timeout. Bad.

 

[DanielPlainview]

I am, I'm making fun of you and you're getting irritated.

No, you're making yourself look like an idiot. Tomlin criticisms aren't valid/invalid on a game-by-game basis. On top of it, today was clearly not a stellar coaching job by him which makes your bragging look even more ridiculous

 

[KIRK]

at least we will have one more win going in to those games.

And a 2.5 game lead with 6 to go, thanks to Baltimore.

Gotta add this. Today aside, our OL is legit good. It really is. BUT, the one area where they really struggle, where they've really struggled for years, is against teams with a legit good 4 man front that just doesn't blitz.

It's not just the Jags.

 

[ColePens]

apparently you can

No. You can't. And that's why they've lost important games against good teams. And that's why seeding has actually affected them in dodging NE. And that's why NE ALWAYS has the advantage on us.

So while it works randomly in the regular season, it has affected them in the postseason.

 

[KIRK]

@bambamcam4ever

Clocking the ball 1st and goal. Bad. Not trying to run at least once with a timeout. Bad.

BUT, running on the last play was the right call.

IF you run earlier and don't get it, you've got what 12 seconds left and no timeouts. Throwing then is the only option.

I get what you're saying, but it cuts both ways.

 

[The Old Master]

i'm not one of ben's biggest fans but trailing going in to the 4th quarter there is no one i'd rather have.

 

[LOGiK]

Because until 3 minutes left in the game, your offense was struggling to move the ball, so how many more times could you have counted on have a chance to score.

And because for most of the game you struggled to stop the run.

No way to think the Steelers would get 4 possessions in the 4th quarter.

@JohnTitor is a second guessing yinzer who wanted Dobbs in the game. That says it all.

I get that, but getting two 2-pt conversions seemed way more unlikely than getting 1 td and 1 fg in just over 15 minutes. The AB td changed the game showing 1 play can change the face of the game so to push the envelope with so much game left seemed odd. They had to step up defensively to have any chance to win anyway so regardless of the two td / two 2-pt conversions it wouldn't have mattered unless they got some d breaks.
I donno. It can go either way to call it obviously, but just seemed like a 'settle for at least a tie and go from there' kind of deal.

 

[KIRK]

i'm not one of ben's biggest fans but trailing going in to the 4th quarter there is no one i'd rather have.

As long as this game was 2 scores, I really didn't get the class clowns calling for a QB change.

Before I forget, in a game like this, press coverage, JuJu was fighting for everything. I wish Ben had looked to him earlier instead of forcing crap to AB.

Someone said during the game AB struggles with press against big CB's. That's true. Which is why I wonder why they didn't have AB in motion to get a clean release or running isolated crossing routes (like that last catch in the 4th).

 

[KIRK]

I get that, but getting two 2-pt conversions seemed way more unlikely than getting 1 td and 1 fg in just over 15 minutes. The AB td changed the game showing 1 play can change the face of the game so to push the envelope with so much game left seemed odd. They had to step up defensively to have any chance to win anyway so regardless of the two td / two 2-pt conversions it wouldn't have mattered unless they got some d breaks.
I donno. It can go either way to call it obviously, but just seemed like a 'settle for at least a tie and go from there' kind of deal.

Oh, it can go either way. BUT when you look at how the Steelers O was struggling and how the Jags still were running and moving the ball well, I get a coach saying 'I don't know how many times we see it in the 4th' and going for 2. Most coaches would've done that.

 

[Joejosh999]

I don't know. For the first time in a long time, he's looking at a Steelers team that instead of finding ways to lose actually finds a way to win. One doesn't laugh at teams like that.

Maybe. I dunno, Kirk, the Jags gave us a lot of help to find the way to win today. We made a bunch of mistakes that would be difference makers normally.

You’re more confident than I.

 

[KIRK]

No, you're making yourself look like an idiot. Tomlin criticisms aren't valid/invalid on a game-by-game basis. On top of it, today was clearly not a stellar coaching job by him which makes your bragging look even more ridiculous

I think Tomlin is a ******* idiot.

That said, I have no issue with (a) going for 2 after the TD, (b) not calling the timeout before the 2 minute warning (creating a disincentive for a play action call where they could hit Fournette coming out of the backfield; that one was about knowing Marrone would trust his D), and (c) waiting until the last play to call a run.

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

Ill take this type of win over last week. This is what builds teams for a Superbowl run. Especially with it coming against a team we couldnt beat recently. And started the same way again.

Down 16-0 until the 4th quarter?

This will do wonders for them going forward. Even Conner looked horrible today..caught up in the " we cant beat the Jags" mentality.

Look for him to bounce back next week. Broncos have a good pass rush but one of the worst against the run so we should be giving him the ball 25 times. Let him get that confidence back...have to remember hes only in his 2nd year.

Oh and Vance. Even Heath doesnt catch that TD pass. Thats two weeks in a row he made a ridiculous TD catch. Keep feeding that guy. Still not being used enough imo. When Brady cant find anyone he tosses it up to Gronk and lets him make the play. Vance can be that for us. Now just stay healthy.

Helluva win..after Ben looking horrible. This win will have them more fired up than the blowout against the Panthers. And builds character.

Got that feeling this year...

 

[wheelz87]

Because until 3 minutes left in the game, your offense was struggling to move the ball, so how many more times could you have counted on have a chance to score.

And because for most of the game you struggled to stop the run.

No way to think the Steelers would get 4 possessions in the 4th quarter.

@JohnTitor is a second guessing yinzer who wanted Dobbs in the game. That says it all.

I'm about as conservative as it gets with 2 point conversions. I hate chasing points. But it was the right call. It's about the feel of the game and we weren't creating anything. Low scoring, defensive games I actually believe you have to be more agressive, because you don't get too many opportunities. Making it a 1 score game there would have been huge.