The Pettersson and Hughes Contract Thread

[Mr. Canucklehead]

I figured we could have a one stop shop for this discussion since they’re so frequently linked now, and are now the last two RFAs the Canucks need to lock up.

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[Javaman]

Didn't we already have one of these? Wouldn't it make more sense to simply bump it?

 

[elitepete]

I figured we could have a one stop shop for this discussion since they’re so frequently linked now, and are now the last two RFAs the Canucks need to lock up.

This is with Rathbone not on the roster. If Rathbone starts the season on the Canucks instead of Hunt, we lose $125k in cap space.
Also Podkolzin has a slightly higher cap hit than guys like Dowling and Highmore.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Didn't we already have one of these? Wouldn't it make more sense to simply bump it?

I didn’t see one, but if you want to link me to it I can merge them.

 

[Javaman]

Delete.

See below.

 

[Javaman]

I didn’t see one, but if you want to link me to it I can merge them.

This is the one I'm thinking of:

Player Discussion - Elias Pettersson | Quinn Hughes - Contract Discussion Thread

If it's too old/irrelevant, then ignore. A new thread might be cleaner and better anyways.

 

[Blue and Green]

This is with Rathbone not on the roster. If Rathbone starts the season on the Canucks instead of Hunt, we lose $125k in cap space.
Also Podkolzin has a slightly higher cap hit than guys like Dowling and Highmore.

PuckPedia's projection has Podkolzin and Rathbone on the roster. It would affect cap space only if the Canucks bridge both Pettersson and Hughes for <=$13M and stay under the $81.5M mark in total.

 

[jfc64]

PuckPedia's projection has Podkolzin and Rathbone on the roster. It would affect cap space only if the Canucks bridge both Pettersson and Hughes for <=$13M and stay under the $81.5M mark in total.

Patterson 9.0
Juice 7.5

 

[M2Beezy]

Delete

 

[Sinistril]

Patterson 9.0
Juice 7.5

Yep lots of room to sign them even with overpayments

 

[Killer Orcas]

If there is no hold up with the other two and they know what cap we have left how can they not be close? I could understand if they had different agents but they don't. Is the problem term then?

 

[Javaman]

It seems to me that their combined capt hit could range from about $13M to $18M. But a lot of that depends on term/UFA years. I'm sorta going with $14.5M, but I'm not gonna pretend I have a rock solid argument to support that number.

 

[krutovsdonut]

hopefully, the issue is how much term do the canucks' offers buy. so you could call that term, or you could call that money.

pettersson and hughes no doubt are both valuing themselves higher than last season's stats would justify so there is room for to and fro.

also, canucks are unlikely to sign hughes until pettersson signs, and thereby expose themselves to an iffer sheetm but barry may try and tempt them.

 

[F A N]

So for the cap experts, how much cap room do we actually have available to sign those two? (factoring in Ferland being on LTIR)?

 

[rypper]

So for the cap experts, how much cap room do we actually have available to sign those two? (factoring in Ferland being on LTIR)?

I think Motte might be on LTIR as well.



If that's the case that adds 4.7 ish million. If they carry 13 forwards and 7 defense, they could look at waiving someone like Dowling, Di Giuseppe, and say Hunt for another 2.3m (just randomly picking names, who knows how training camp breaks down.)

So they have 10,664,341m in cap space currently. add the 7ish from the moves I suggested and that gives them almost 18m.

(I could be completely wrong about Motte, who they send down, etc.)

 

[RussianRacket]

It will get done. These kids will win us at least 2 Stanley Cups.

 

[F A N]

I think Motte might be on LTIR as well.



If that's the case that adds 4.7 ish million. If they carry 13 forwards and 7 defense, they could look at waiving someone like Dowling, Di Giuseppe, and say Hunt for another 2.3m (just randomly picking names, who knows how training camp breaks down.)

So they have 10,664,341m in cap space currently. add the 7ish from the moves I suggested and that gives them almost 18m.

(I could be completely wrong about Motte, who they send down, etc.)

Well even if Motte isn’t ready for training camp I don’t think you plan on him being out for the whole season.

My question is basically asking how much cap room we have given a full roster/expected roster with Ferland being on LTIR.

 

[Melvin]

Patterson 9.0
Juice 7.5

No even benning would give Bieksa 7.5M at this stage.

 

[rypper]

Well even if Motte isn’t ready for training camp I don’t think you plan on him being out for the whole season.

My question is basically asking how much cap room we have given a full roster/expected roster with Ferland being on LTIR.

True. A little more than 16m to sign Pettersson and Hughes.

 

[F A N]

True. A little more than 16m to sign Pettersson and Hughes.

Hmm… that’s really tight to sign both long term.

 

[rypper]

Hmm… that’s really tight to sign both long term.

Yup looks like someone's getting the bridge and someone gets term.

Personally I would have liked to have locked up Pettersson and bridge Hughes, but given the cost difference and Pettersson's recent comments, I think it's more likely the opposite happens.

 

[elitepete]

PuckPedia's projection has Podkolzin and Rathbone on the roster. It would affect cap space only if the Canucks bridge both Pettersson and Hughes for <=$13M and stay under the $81.5M mark in total.

Doesn’t a player making 925k take up more cap space than a player making 750k?

I think Pod should be kept up no matter what. But if we wanted to, couldn’t we send Rathbone down (to start with), and have brad hunt up in his place, who makes only 800k. This would be to maximize cap space.

 

[F A N]

Yup looks like someone's getting the bridge and someone gets term.

Personally I would have liked to have locked up Pettersson and bridge Hughes, but given the cost difference and Pettersson's recent comments, I think it's more likely the opposite happens.

I would prefer to lock up Petey long term. And ss there much of a cost difference if it takes $8M AAV or more to lock up Hughes long term?

 

[Cancuks]

I think they will both get the same contracts. 3 x 7.5. Which sets them up for big pay days when Myers comes off the books.

 

[Grub]

Just pay them. They are our top center and top D. We go all in on them.