OT: The OT Self-Isolation Thread 2: Self Isolate Harder

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Bam19

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When would you guys be comfortable buying airline tickets for? There are some absolutely insane deals out there. Debating if it’s worth the risk.
 

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Also, the other day I read somewhere on the net that when Trump is standing still, he holds the posture of the front half of a centaur, and now I can't stop seeing it.

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or anywhere truly.

if I were to buy a ticket I’d for sure be buying the insurance on it for cancellation Incase things flair up.

although business class for $1200 bucks is crazy

most insurance won’t cover cancellation due to Covid anymore as it is now a known pandemic. You would need to get a cancel for any reason.
 

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When would you guys be comfortable buying airline tickets for? There are some absolutely insane deals out there. Debating if it’s worth the risk.
The likelihood of you catching it is low as long as you take precautions. They space people apart on the planes, anyways. If you want to go, I say do it. Just wear proper protection and carry hand sanitizer with you and you should be fine.

It also really depends if you're going to be around elderly people or people with pre-existing health conditions. If you're not, is catching it really that horrible on the very off chance you do?
 
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The likelihood of you catching it is low as long as you take precautions. They space people apart on the planes, anyways. If you want to go, I say do it. Just wear proper protection and carry hand sanitizer with you and you should be fine.

It also really depends if you're going to be around elderly people or people with pre-existing health conditions. If you're not, is catching it really that horrible on the very off chance you do?

I just wear my protective suit when I take flights nowadays
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SARS was a coronavirus.
MERS was a coronavirus.

Coronaviruses have been a thing for a long time and any TV show doing a show about a sickness or pandemic who did even the slightest bit of research or was striving for the tiniest bit of authenticity would be likely to refer to their plague as a 'coronavirus'. The same thing happened with The Simpsons.

This rush to proclaim everything a harebrained conspiracy without any regard to logic or science might be the worst thing in the world today in terms of human psychology and sociology.
 

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I wouldn’t call plane travel in the near future safe at all. Someone more knowledgable than me can chime in, but doesn’t the air within the cabin get re-circulated?

Its pretty clear now from research around the world that this virus is indeed airborne. Makes sense as people are spreading it pre-symptomatically...meaning they aren’t even coughing or sneezing droplets yet. I had a strong feeling that this anti-mask rhetoric early on was completely irresposible by the higher ups in the western world (including my own work in public transit, getting sent weekly emails about how ineffective masks are and “we suggest they not be worn”).
 

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It's a lose-lose situation. You either kill people because things open up and they get the virus or you kill people because the economy crashes and everyone is broke. Just as many, if not more will die if the economy crashes. I'm just looking up how many deaths were linked to 2008, and I'm seeing 500,000 people died related to the recession.

Obviously the way these people are presenting this argument is so stupid, like the one you mentioned.

There is no solution where everyone lives and if there was, that causes a lot of issues too. Lose-lose-lose.

I find this pretty disingenuous. The "economy" is a human construct that you can help prop up with social safety nets and by taking on debt. The "virus" is a force of nature that until you get a vaccine can only be mitigated by shutting things down which tanks your economy, but your economy tanking was going to happen either way so you shut down to save human lives. If you take Sweden for example, with a world leading social safety net they decided to rely entirely on that and not shut down (I don't know how long that last though) and now they have 10x the deaths of their fellow Scandinavian countries. So translate to the US and their 'boot strap' system if they tried that rather than talking about 60,000 deaths you're probably counting towards a million right now.

So why I say this is disingenuous is because really this topic is a discussion about US politics. Obviously we all have to open up at some point, and this should be done carefully following the scientists. But down in the US you just have a significant portion of the population that are outright lunatics who motivated by either greed or idiocracy are tired of the lockdown and want to throw things open again and damn the consequences. Justification is need for this pro-death stance willing to sacrifice grandpa for "the economy" so talking points are needed and this is what you get.

I call it lunacy because with the way the virus spreads re-opening before your ready is not much different from never having locked down to begin with and while the pandemic still rages the economy is going to remain in shambles.
 

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I wouldn’t call plane travel in the near future safe at all. Someone more knowledgable than me can chime in, but doesn’t the air within the cabin get re-circulated?

Its pretty clear now from research around the world that this virus is indeed airborne. Makes sense as people are spreading it pre-symptomatically...meaning they aren’t even coughing or sneezing droplets yet. I had a strong feeling that this anti-mask rhetoric early on was completely irresposible by the higher ups in the western world (including my own work in public transit, getting sent weekly emails about how ineffective masks are and “we suggest they not be worn”).

This is one thing I don't really get. Obviously there is a pandemic going on right now so yeah nobody's flying, but in a year or two when this thing is beat why not get back to normal? This type of virus' need specific environments to start, and are going to break out locally first so there's plenty of advance warning. Covid-19 started in the Wuhan wet markets, we first heard about it in Dec/Jan, and in North America didn't start hitting us until March.

It would be nice that if people were more informed and selfconcious about these things the seasonal flu/cold doesn't get spread around as much, but it seems to me that in the future you'd have enough early warning that a pandemic is starting that dying from a Covid-19 before the alarms start sounding would be like dying in a shark attack on a Florida beach.
 

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the fear of virus after SARS in asia would be way more significant than here, where it was an afterthought.

Using it as a threat in fiction is totally in following with that
But...but...they're totally going to take it down because it hits SO close to the real thing, man! Don't you know that I saw a video the other day that said that Antifa and Hilary Clinton arranged to leave the door unlocked at the lab in Wuhan that created the coronavirus so it would force everyone to stay inside while Black Lives Matter stole everyone's trousers to sell on the black market and divert the funds to radical socialist fascist impressionist lesbians?!
 

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I wouldn’t call plane travel in the near future safe at all. Someone more knowledgable than me can chime in, but doesn’t the air within the cabin get re-circulated?

Its pretty clear now from research around the world that this virus is indeed airborne. Makes sense as people are spreading it pre-symptomatically...meaning they aren’t even coughing or sneezing droplets yet. I had a strong feeling that this anti-mask rhetoric early on was completely irresposible by the higher ups in the western world (including my own work in public transit, getting sent weekly emails about how ineffective masks are and “we suggest they not be worn”).

Maskaphobia.

It's real.
 

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Also...what the hell is wrong with people in Edmonton? Go have a look at the covid thread on the Oilers board. Holy f***.

The mains are almost more than I can stomach.

Fortunately, despite all the jackasses braying that mitigation and social distancing measures were unnecessary and should be abandoned, most people in the real world (at least here in Vancouver and from the sounds of things many other places) have stepped up to help reduce spread of infection.
 

Bam19

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The likelihood of you catching it is low as long as you take precautions. They space people apart on the planes, anyways. If you want to go, I say do it. Just wear proper protection and carry hand sanitizer with you and you should be fine.

It also really depends if you're going to be around elderly people or people with pre-existing health conditions. If you're not, is catching it really that horrible on the very off chance you do?

this I’m not scared to get it that isn’t so much the issue.

It’s more say they are flying and I’m planning to go somewhere for 10 days. But that destination makes you isolate for 14 days I’m screwed.

I guess the cancel for any reason insurance could be an option but I assume it’s pricey.
 
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