The Official Training Camp Thread (Warning, Post #310)
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Out of everything here, the PP2 is the most intriguing for me. It's showing that they are serious about Hutton on the team.
All I see is them trying to desperately find a spot for Vey. He was tried on the wing last year. He wasn't good. He was switched to center because of injuries but wasn't good. This camp he hasn't been good. Time to admit he isn't good I'd think. I certainly wouldn't be giving him playing time over the kids at this point. he's shown what he has to show.
y2kcanucks
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Looks to me like Virtanen will be sent back to Calgary, and Baertschi could be the 13th forward. Should be Prust on the outside looking in though.
Powder
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At some point, they have to ask themselves "when we say a rookie has to outplay a vet, by what margin do we mean?" Because on a pure yes or no scale, McCann has outplayed Vey. But what more do they want? I mean, McCann has been a shining star these last couple games and Vey has done absolutely nothing the whole camp. What more does McCann need to prove just to take the 4C spot?
Same here. My only change would've been McCann instead of Baertschi but that's a fine group. Want to see what it can do.
You're probably right. Which is a scary thought. Don't think I could bare watching a game if Linden Vey makes it over McCann...
Hansen
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I definitely feel like Vey and the others who were put out in the last minute of the last game with the empty net were told "this is your last chance to prove that you deserve to keep your spot"
PM
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Sutter with Edler on the points for the first powerplay unit? Hopefully that is a very short experiment. Sutter shouldn't be anywhere near the first unit and Edler is only good for sniping shin-pads.
Weber - Hutton should be our powerplay point men if this team is serious about contending.
Weber - Hutton should be our powerplay point men if this team is serious about contending.
Shareefruck
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Nobody in their right mind ever should have given that assertion any credence to begin with though-- Sutter has never been a good faceoff guy (at his best, he's a 50% guy and normally below that)-- why would he suddenly be one now that Benning is randomly pulling it out of his a**?
Looks like messages to some vets imo.
Sutter -The guy being "handed" the 2nd line centre spot is now playing with Dorsett and a guy barely hanging onto the roster bubble.
Vey -The guy being "handed" the 4th line centre spot has now been moved to the wing where there is more competition for a roster spot.
Prust -Hopefully he's the guy without a line and working in. He's been bad.
Kenins -I'm surprised he is still being given so much opportunity. IMO he's in the group of disappointments with Baertschi and Vey… though I missed his game with the twins.
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I'd still keep Virtanen on the team. IMO he has outplayed everyone on the wing outside of Gaunce despite clearly needing some more polish. I think they can polish him here… it sure didn't seem to happen for him in junior last season.
Sedin-Sedin-Vrbata
Gaunce-Horvat-Hansen
Burrows-Sutter-Dorsett
Virtanen-McCann-Craknell
Prust-Baertschi
Edler-Tanev
Hamhuis-Hutton
Sbisa-Bartkowski
Weber
Miller-Markstrom
I'd prefer to keep Corrado and waive Prust but we might be able to sneak Frankie down.
That is one heck of a soft line up. If we're not winning, we're going to be rag-dolled. Yikes.
And yeah, Grenier and Cracknell aren't making the opening day roster (our actually gritty guys). Looks like Prust and Dorsett are a shoe-in.
y2kcanucks
Le Sex God
I like that lineup, except Cracknell has no business being on this team. Dump him and keep either Corrado or Kenins.
BROCK HUGHES
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Thats really to bad if he is.I think we can use the size up front.Baertschi has not shown nothing to war rent a spot in this line up,but neither has a lot of our vets.And if Vey wins a spot over McCann or Gaunce i am going to be P--ssed.
Looks like a wake up call for Sutter. Yet another experiment to try and find a spot for Vey.
I like the McCann line and Kenins had his best shifts with Horvat last year.
Not crazy about Edler on the 1st unit PP and I'v never heard Sutter has either a booming shot or get playmaking skills to have him on the point.
Would rather have McCann on the 2nd unit PP than Baertschi.
I think they have to keep Craknell or Vey… you can't have no centre behind McCann. Craknell has outplayed Vey and would be pretty good in that 4th line role imo. For a guy that hasn't been playing centre he has looked pretty good.
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Do people like the way Kenins has been playing or is he getting the benefit of doubt based on how he played last season? I think Craknell and Virtanen have both outplayed him.
Powder
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I highly doubt they'd have two rookies on the same line (i.e. McCann and Gaunce/Virtanen). Just the way they insisted on insulating Horvat last season, I don't see how two rookies line up together, especially on the fourth line, which should be used to keep/build momentum, not kill it.
Not saying I think they would get hemmed in their own zone, but I think that's management's perspective. I'd be happy to be proved wrong though.
Not saying I think they would get hemmed in their own zone, but I think that's management's perspective. I'd be happy to be proved wrong though.
Nucker101
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Surprised so many people feel comfortable with Hutton playing on his off side. As of today I'd go with:
Sedin - Sedin - Burrows
Sven - Horvat - Vrbata
Gaunce - McCann - Hansen
Kenins - Sutter - Dorsett
Extra: Prust
- Waive Vey
- If they really want to give JV 9 games, then have him in Kenins spot and call Kenins back up if he's sent back.
- Gaunce and McCann can switch positions on that line
- I considered starting Sven on the third line in favour of whoever is playing wing between McCann/Gaunce and having one of them play LW on Horvat's line
Edler - Tanev
Hamhuis - Bart/Weber
Hutton - Bart/Weber
Extras: Biega, Corrado
- Waive Sbisa
- Don't feel comfortable with Hutton or Hamhuis playing RHD.
Miller
Markstrom
- Higgins on short term IR
Sedin - Sedin - Burrows
Sven - Horvat - Vrbata
Gaunce - McCann - Hansen
Kenins - Sutter - Dorsett
Extra: Prust
- Waive Vey
- If they really want to give JV 9 games, then have him in Kenins spot and call Kenins back up if he's sent back.
- Gaunce and McCann can switch positions on that line
- I considered starting Sven on the third line in favour of whoever is playing wing between McCann/Gaunce and having one of them play LW on Horvat's line
Edler - Tanev
Hamhuis - Bart/Weber
Hutton - Bart/Weber
Extras: Biega, Corrado
- Waive Sbisa
- Don't feel comfortable with Hutton or Hamhuis playing RHD.
Miller
Markstrom
- Higgins on short term IR
Balls Mahoney
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Could be Hammer playing on his offside. No real context to the way the lines were relayed.
Both good points.
Hammer pretty much refuses to play the rs.
KeninsFan
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Nice McCann/Gaunce both getting a real shot of being our third line. McCann should be on PP2 instead of Bae.
Sutter and Dorsett both getting demoted to 4th line status both are really good fits on the 4th line, salary aside. Vey getting yet another shot as the 4RW.
Kenins getting a chance to shine with Horvat, I have a feeling he knows he'll start in the AHL if he doesn't show up because of his waiver status.
Cracknell-Virtanen-Bae should all be in the minors/juniors. No emotional attachement to Bae so for me he hasn't looked like he deserves anything more than a 13F spot.
Could also be them just seeing if Hutton can play on his offside. Fact of the matter is the Canucks are deep on the Left
Edler
Hamhuis
Bartkowski
Pizza
Hutton
and shallow on the natural righties
Tanev
Weber
Corrado.
Hutton is sadly not going to break in this year on his natural side. Bartkowski played last year on his offside but that still leaves Elder,Hamhuis and PIzza on the left before Hutton. He has a much better chance sticking this year if he can show he can play as well on the right side as he has on the left.
KeninsFan
Fire Benning already
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No love for Biega? He's been flying under the radar but has looked like a NHL calibre #5/6, no idea if he's been that good in Utica though.
Very true. I thought Biega was right there with Hutton last night and they were a good pairing. Hutton though brings one thing the Canucks are sorely lacking on the blue line. Offensive upside.
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