"The Michel Therrien System"
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NobleSix
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^ Exactly. What system?
The system of systematically losing games by scoring one goal and hoping to defend that one goal for 40 minutes?
Despite what Therrien says, this team is definitely not a "grinding team". Expecting the smallest team in the league to play a dump and chase grinding game? Yeah, that's working out wonders for us. Last season we played an up tempo offensive game, and we had success, then for some reason that doesn't make sense to me, Therrien switches to this ******** system that has brought nothing but failure and embarrassment.
The system of systematically losing games by scoring one goal and hoping to defend that one goal for 40 minutes?
Despite what Therrien says, this team is definitely not a "grinding team". Expecting the smallest team in the league to play a dump and chase grinding game? Yeah, that's working out wonders for us. Last season we played an up tempo offensive game, and we had success, then for some reason that doesn't make sense to me, Therrien switches to this ******** system that has brought nothing but failure and embarrassment.
Guess
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According to Antichambre, even with us seemingly playing less dump and chase vs Winnipeg, we still got beat in the possession stat.
Taking corsi for %, especially in 5 v 5 close, as a proxy for possession we've been losing the possession battle for the last 5 games. The wins over the Bruins and Caps, to my eye, were much more about the Bruins and Caps playing poorly than us playing well.
The team's been losing the possession battle since November. Fenwick looks awful. Fenwick Close% they're 46.1% since November 1st and 43.5% in 2014.
The latter figure's on par with Edmonton over the whole season, the former is between Calgary and Philadelphia's whole-season marks.
What I don't understand is how Therrien managed to coach a positive-possession team last season with a good system. The way the Habs have played this season matches up with every other year of his coaching career, last season was the abnormal one.
Bourne Endeavor
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If Therrien thinks we're a grinding team. Someone ought to show him some St. Louis or LA tapes. His mind will be blown.
Exactly. It changes every game. Scratch that, every period. Scratch that, every shift.
No arguments here. If you look at the data, it seems that there's a clear structural break at the beginning of the season. Detrend the data, and I bet you the process looks identical. Means something is very clearly wrong with the entire team, minus Price.
I wonder what that common factor could be...
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I thought he finally watched some tapes when gorges had that pinch where he set up prust(?) For that goal few games back. But not so sure anymore.
Depends if you are grinding with the puck or grinding without it. MT likes the latter.
Bourne Endeavor
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I know. They are a team that grinds out wins though. Therrien can think whatever he fancies, but that certainly isn't us. I have no idea why he is so desperate to move away from the counter attack/attack off the rush style we have previously employed. Ya know, the one that won us games.
Can't wait to see Therrien fired.
LA's an interesting team in-terms of possession metrics. They're a dominant team, but they manage to do so while dumping the puck a lot. There's a bit of a contradiction there in terms of traditional analytics thinking, but whatever their system is it works. Someone spending hours breaking down the game on tape could probably explain why they can dump a fair bit and still get positive possession, but the bottom line is it works.
It probably limits their offensive output at even-strength but as long as you out-score your opponents that isn't a bad trade-off.
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Thank goodness we've drafted a lot more undersized forwards who are in Hamilton and Juniors. Therrien can't wait for them to get here.
Trading Kristo for Thomas was brilliant.
Trading Kristo for Thomas was brilliant.
Winter Eclipse
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Therrien's system is pretty straightforward. Desharnais' line produces the offense, all other lines are required to play defense and defend the lead the DD line generates.
Thank goodness we've drafted a lot more undersized forwards who are in Hamilton and Juniors. Therrien can't wait for them to get here.
Trading Kristo for Thomas was brilliant.
If you're looking for grit, Kristo might not have been up your alley
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