TH has always been an enigma to me. the beer started out exceptional, and then slowly teetered off, relative to price point. Though, people still flock to it like its the best stuff around. They do the best shakes in the business - or at least, that ive tasted - but other than that, the stuff isnt too far ahead of what you can get from locals. Give me tonewood improv over just about any TH non shake IPA. Ardmore is still a 30 min drive for me, so i wont visit regularly, but i wouldnt mind a regular rotation of the 'good' shake IPAs, ill be honest.
Oddly enough i was just in Minnesota 2 weeks ago. I went to Venn, and was very impressed. Dangerous Man was on my list, but my hotel was basically a .2 mile walk from Surly and i was working 14 hour days, so i was going for efficiency most days. I also did Fair state and was happy with the results, but not flabbergasted.
Ill be spending another two weeks in Minnesota in July/august for a project implementation, so ill make sure DM goes on the list.