The Flyers Draft 7th; Who Do You Want?

[BernieParent]

Crouse doesn't have Morins upside. Big factor. The last two 1st round picks were upside picks.

But are you certain the Flyers scouts don't think Crouse has significant upside? Or that Morin's upside was higher than Ristolainen or Nurse? I was pretty high on Nurse, and that was probably mostly subjective, but he played on heck of a WJC.

Upside is a pretty elusive metric for prospects. Plus, I could argue that Crouse is an easier pick than Morin because he has achieved some of the upside that the Flyers covet and they have to rely less on crystal balls and pig entrails, while still having room to mature.

 

[Appleyard]

I added 9lbs of muscle over the past 3 months with diet and exercise and I'm not even training for anything. In that time, I've gotten faster, stronger, and more athletic. I'm 5'7 and 27. A guy with 4 inches on me and a proper regiment + diet should have no problem putting on that kind of weight. At 20 he should have no problem adding weight. He also MUST add that type of weight, how many defense man are in the NHL and weigh in below 180lbs?

It is not a good thing to be 5'11 and 160 at the NHL level.
Erik Karlsson was a rookie weighing just over 160, now he's just over 180 and still incredibly fast. The amount of weight added is relative to the amount of strength gained. I wouldn't be surprised if hes faster with better lateral movement.

Brian Campbell 5'10/190
Ducan Keith 6'1/192 lbs
Sydney Crosby 5'11/200 lbs
Mason Raymond 6'0/185 lbs
Michael Grabner 6'1/202 lbs
Matt Duchene 5'11/200 lbs

Those are some of the fastest skaters in the league. See a pattern here? (end of argument)

I would add:

Carl Hagelin 5'11/186 lbs
Darren Helm 6'0/196 lbs
Nathan MacKinnon 6'0/195lbs
Phil Kessel 6'0/202lbs
Taylor Hall 6'1/198lbs

It is really not 'that' hard to add 20lbs in 6 months or so and maintain a similar body fat %. I have personal experience... in ~8 months when I was 19 I went from ~170lbs to ~192lbs, and only increased my body fat by 2-3%. That being said it did not actually help my water polo (which I intended it to)! As my stamina in water was worse so I could not play as much of a game as I did before... but I was quicker over 25m, 50m and 100m in water... and faster over 100m on land, and ofc far stronger. That was however me doing it on my own with limited input from my old clubs dietician/personal trainer (mainly by email) with a pro level coaching and fitness staff that amount of weight should be able to be added without much problem I reckon.

 

[BillDineen]

I went from 145lbs to 165lbs over one summer (probably 4-5lbs fat) and my football coach accused me of going on steroids! It is possible with proper training and diet. (Later I went from a 4.9 40y to a 4.6 over the course of a winter, so improving your first step quickly is possible as well).

 

[OrangeAndBlackMetal]

i'm 6'5", and i was a vegetarian for 8 years, when i started eating meat again i was a size 30 waist... i went to a size 34 within a year, and now even that's getting a tad tight #fatass

 

[BackWithaVengeance]

With what I read about Zacha the last couple of pages from you all, I wonder if it will be the 2nd time the Flyers miss out on a Jagr-esque kind of a player when he's available at #7 and they go out and pick someone else.

With all my preference for Rantanen I really start to warm up on Zacha.

On D, Hanifin taken aside, it's still Provorov all the way.

 

[Tripod]

Is it draft day yet?

Man this is going to be a long 2 months especially since most of the prospects are done playing. So really...we have all the infor we are going to get on these kids until the combine(not that a lot is determined from that)

 

[CutOnDime97]

I went from 145lbs to 165lbs over one summer (probably 4-5lbs fat) and my football coach accused me of going on steroids! It is possible with proper training and diet. (Later I went from a 4.9 40y to a 4.6 over the course of a winter, so improving your first step quickly is possible as well).

What kind of diet? Just curious.

 

[Curufinwe]

Is it draft day yet?

Man this is going to be a long 2 months especially since most of the prospects are done playing. So really...we have all the infor we are going to get on these kids until the combine(not that a lot is determined from that)

And more than five months till the next regular season game.

 

[BillDineen]

What kind of diet? Just curious.

It was a product called the Dash Building Box (similar to Cybergenics, but a much simpler workout). It was over the counter 25 years ago, but I suspect that some of the ingredients may be illegal today. I can't remember the diet specifics. A few years later, when I still played football, I do recall consuming 5,000 calories a day with as much protein as possible.

 

[sharpeye97]

Is it draft day yet?

Man this is going to be a long 2 months especially since most of the prospects are done playing. So really...we have all the infor we are going to get on these kids until the combine(not that a lot is determined from that)

You still have the Memorial Cup.

 

[FlyerFire]

Just read an article on Provorov on Philly.com on the new Russian factor.Hextall said he was fine with drafting a Russian(old stereotype gone) but that the KHL was something they had to factor in.I hope not. If Provorov is >>>> others than pick him

 

[sharpeye97]

It will probably be the guy that a select few have chosen.

How many picked Morin in 2013 or Sanheim in 2014? Very few.

 

[Curufinwe]

Its different when you have a top 10 pick in a draft this top heavy.

 

[Jtown]

what would people think of a Burakovsky for 7th overall proposal? This kid is going to be be special.

 

[SchennSational1022*]

what would people think of a Burakovsky for 7th overall proposal? This kid is going to be be special.

Not appealing, one bit, at all.

 

[Cyborg LeClair]

what would people think of a Burakovsky for 7th overall proposal? This kid is going to be be special.

I wouldn't even trade Tampa's pick for him

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

I wouldn't even trade Tampa's pick for him

That's just insane. The pick is likely going to be somewhere in the 26-30 range. Burakovsky's already playing in the NHL at 19-20 & just scratching the surface. You'd be lucky to get that type of player that late.

I wouldn't trade our pick for him but the Tampa one you do everyday of the week with no questions asked. Washington very likely wouldn't go for that though.

 

[Jtown]

That's just insane. The pick is likely going to be somewhere in the 26-30 range. Burakovsky's already playing in the NHL at 19-20 & just scratching the surface. You'd be lucky to get that type of player that late.

I wouldn't trade our pick for him but the Tampa one you do everyday of the week with no questions asked. Washington very likely wouldn't go for that though.

I think Burakosky is going to be better than any forward drafted 7 or later. I actually don't think the caps would even entertain that trade unfortunately.

 

[FLYERSG]

what would people think of a Burakovsky for 7th overall proposal? This kid is going to be be special.

Terrible value. Not a ****ing chance.

 

[Hockeypete49]

It will probably be the guy that a select few have chosen.

How many picked Morin in 2013 or Sanheim in 2014? Very few.

I picked Morin but did not hit on Sanheim. Was really hoping Larkin made it to us at the time.

 

[OzFlyers]

Just heard an interview with Barzal. His idols- Giroux and Datsyuk.

 

[daynus]

Gonna be interesting indeed re: New Jersey. Hired ray Shero, and they have come out and said they like their d and are looking. For more offense. Guys like werenski and provorov should be avail. And if hanifanhanifan some how slips, hexy is gonna be almost forced to take d, with 1a.

 

[Jtown]

what would people think of a Burakovsky for 7th overall proposal? This kid is going to be be special.

Not appealing, one bit, at all.

I wouldn't even trade Tampa's pick for him

That's just insane. The pick is likely going to be somewhere in the 26-30 range. Burakovsky's already playing in the NHL at 19-20 & just scratching the surface. You'd be lucky to get that type of player that late.

I wouldn't trade our pick for him but the Tampa one you do everyday of the week with no questions asked. Washington very likely wouldn't go for that though.

Terrible value. Not a ****ing chance.

i have to bump this

 

[sa cyred]

i have to bump this

Hmm? Nice to see him score 2 goals.

I still wouldnt trade the 7th for him.

I would trade our 2nd first though.

 

[Jtown]

Hmm? Nice to see him score 2 goals.

I still wouldnt trade the 7th for him.

I would trade our 2nd first though.

these goals weren't deflections or tips or rebounds. These goals were all him beating lundqvist . This kid is going to be a stud.