Do people just say things without checking? The jets have scored 4 EN goals this year. Care to guess who scored them? How many 'free pluses' do you think Wheeler and Scheifele got?
Player Discussion: The Drama of Mark Scheifele in Two Acts
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Stats are a product of on ice play, you can't feel stats. But you can feel the moment, its all about the feelings of moments.
Just like how ill feel when my first tee shot at Kildonan is in the parking lot
Just like how ill feel when my first tee shot at Kildonan is in the parking lot
ryerockarola
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Also en are not free points as the other team has an extra attacker so just as likely to hurt ur stats with other team scoring.
Teemusalami204
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Mark Scheifele, third highest scoring center in the league, ahead of guys like Crosby, Barkov, Matthews. Only McJesus and the Great German ahead of him. 5th overal in NHL scoring.
I think he may have become one of the most underrated players even amongst Jets fans. What a beauty.
Of course he's gotta do something about his GA but I'd bet if we tweaked his linemates and upgraded our D a bit that would become far less of an issue.
I think he may have become one of the most underrated players even amongst Jets fans. What a beauty.
Of course he's gotta do something about his GA but I'd bet if we tweaked his linemates and upgraded our D a bit that would become far less of an issue.
Teemusalami204
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I like Scheifele , great player that worked his ass off to get to the level he is at. I still remember Bambi when he first became a Jet and now he's a top 10 center in the league. Glad he's a Winnipeg Jet and i hope he plays his entire career as one.
Jetfaninflorida
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Wheeler is 'elite' in empty net situations. Looks like ~ top 5 in NHL history adjusted for games played. I don't know about Scheif. Empty net goals aren't free by any stretch of the imagination. But we have to admit, it's a good time to be on the ice for a forward who wants to put points up.
Who Has The Most Career Empty Net Goals | StatMuse
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I wish I could say 'Empty net-gate' was peak HFJets but sadly we'd need to involve Frolik's wife or Trouba's dad for that to be the case. Anybody reach out to get their takes on "free pluses"?
Teemusalami204
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I've seen you post this before, a total strawman. Could it be Wheeler is out there with an EN because he's so good at capitalizing on them? It's not like its a foregone conclusion a team will score with an EN.
If you subtracted every point that Scheifele and Wheeler ever got on empty nets, they would still have first line level scoring statistics.
This seems like a huge reach to try and discredit players.
Why are you loling? I'm serious. You are making an assertion that our best player just coasts around the redline when we get scored on. I call bullshit on that.
Teemusalami204
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Oh I thought you meant video proof of him being in our end.
look up the two on one with drai and mcdavid. I don’t know how to post videos they one he didn’t even try to skate back he was on the other side of the red line.
game before that he took a lap almost around the oilers net after losing the puck on a break. Mcdavid scored his second goal on that one.
both of those were benchable by a lot of coaches in the nhl.
My post was trying to be positive though. I hope he continues his efforts tonight
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Speaking of saying things without checking...
The Jets have 7 empty net goals this year.
Three Jets are tied will 2 empty net goals each, Scheifele, Copp & Appleton. Wheeler has 1.
EDIT: Please disregard my sarcasm & accept my apologies for responding to a post from 19 days ago.
In all likelihood back on March 7th the OP was factual.
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Now go back and see if I was right when I posted it. Even if I was wrong, my point still standsSpeaking of saying things without checking...
The Jets have 7 empty net goals this year.
Three Jets are tied will 2 empty net goals each, Scheifele, Copp & Appleton. Wheeler has 1.
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Jetfaninflorida
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How could my saying that Wheeler is elite in empty net situations be a straw man when I said it and provided the stats to back it up? He is ~ top 5 in NHL history (games adjusted). If top 5 in the history of the league is not elite, what is?
Discredit? I am saying he is elite in this area.
I could be wrong but I feel like you actually agree with me on this point, but want to find a way to disagree with me anyway.
I like you, bud. I guess I'm just hyper sensitive about the shit piled on 55 and 26 sometimes. On the list of things to fix, they are far down the list imo
Jetfaninflorida
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55 can work on bringing his 2 way game every night if you ask me. He doesnt all the time. But he is a big part of this team, on a team friendly contract - lots of value there. Cant complain too much about that.
This isnt the Wheeler thread so I wont say much here, just a quick comment that for me it's his 5v5 game that is not what it was. But by now his utilization and ice time is on Maurice, not him. Recently he gave a great interview where he basically said team first, he'll play wherever the coach says is best for the team. Solid leadership there.
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