EberleHills90210
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Yes he is our best player, but keep in mind he is a little older than Hall, Nuge and Yak. I expect Nuge will be the best of the bunch eventually, but Eberle constantly surprises me.
Dream big I guess.
I see a lot of you guys saying Eberle is the oilers best player "currently", which is exactly what I said at the end of last year and throughout the summer only to be berated by Oiler fans.
I watched a ton of their games from their rookie season and easily saw Eberle as the more polished and refined NHL guy after last season yet many of you guys suggested Hall was better, and those who thought Eberle was better were just simply "looking at the stat sheet". And I quote "If you do a poll on HFOil on who's the better player, Hall will easily beat Eberle".
Eberle hasn't drastically increased his level of play at all over the last 6 months, he's simply sustaining his high level from last year. Last year he easily had the better vision, passing ability, shot, hockey IQ, backhand and composure, and still does.
So what has changed that most of you consider him better now?
Eberle gets the glory, but Hall is the engine.
Eberle gets the glory, but Hall is the engine.
Succinct, and true.
Hall is what gives the line its space, physical presence, and speed. Remove Hall from that line and you don't have the same open ice, you don't have the same stretched D, the same gaps for RNH, Eberle to expertly exploit. The chaos in Halls game is good chaos for the most part because it makes the defenders respond to it because if they don't he has burn speed. You take the turnovers, and bobbled pucks gladly because Hall breaks the D contain and system enough times.
In a tight checking game Hall is the only one able to get much of anything done.
As good as Eberle is he's sub RNH, or Hall, in creating in tight checking. Eberle is imminently dangerous when open ice is afforded.
Succinct, and true.
Hall is what gives the line its space, physical presence, and speed. Remove Hall from that line and you don't have the same open ice, you don't have the same stretched D, the same gaps for RNH, Eberle to expertly exploit. The chaos in Halls game is good chaos for the most part because it makes the defenders respond to it because if they don't he has burn speed. You take the turnovers, and bobbled pucks gladly because Hall breaks the D contain and system enough times.
In a tight checking game Hall is the only one able to get much of anything done.
As good as Eberle is he's sub RNH, or Hall, in creating in tight checking. Eberle is imminently dangerous when open ice is afforded.
I don't get this, Eberle was producing at identical rates when Hall was off that top line after what? a month last season and he was with RNH for most of the time? he once again produced at a similar rate when both RNH and Hall were both injured and he was playing primary with Gagner.
He had 56 ES points last season and we all know most of that was spent playing without Hall on his 5v5 line. So I don't buy that Hall influences that much of Eberle's game, the kid can pretty much adapt on the fly, but I guess playing with Hall and letting him do his thing just makes it easier for him.
Last nights game was a perfect example of that. Hall repeatedly pushed COL's Dmen back creating space at the top of the circles. It gave Eberle the room to unlesh his dirty snipe and allows Schultz to move into the slot more readily.
Hi Habs Fan coming in peace,
I just wanted to know the edm board's opinion on how they would rank their top4 forwards?
I have always been a diehard Eberle fan since he got draft in 2008 22nd overall with his ability to be Mr. Clutch and in-tight skill.
But, my overall ranking of the 4 would look something like this:
1 - RNH: His hockey smarts and puck distribution skills are off the charts. He's the guy you always want to have on your powerplay and the guy you'll count on to make those jawdropping tape-to-tape passes.
2 - Eberle: Mr. Clutch 'nuff said.
3 - Hall: Never sold on Hall and i find it weird how some people have him over the two mentioned above; however I do see what he has to bring to the table. Once considered a premier sniper, now has shown to become a more well-rounded player who is helping in every aspect offensively.
4 - Yakupov: A one-dimensional sniper, who has a nag for being in those sweet spots for goals. He's in his first year in the NHL so it is hard to gouge how well his development will progress. But it is quite possible that he surpasses Hall in my ranking in the future.
So I'd like to know your thoughts concerning your Big 4
Last nights game was a perfect example of that. Hall repeatedly pushed COL's Dmen back creating space at the top of the circles. It gave Eberle the room to unlesh his dirty snipe and allows Schultz to move into the slot more readily.
I key on Eberle a lot in tight checking games and unfortunately here, and in the AHL he has been impacted by tight checking. Without any space and blanket coverage his effectiveness drops off. You look at his play in games like Calgary, LA, those are the battles he needs to overcome. This is no knock on him whatsover and his game has just grown in leaps and bounds. Extremely confident player. But sometimes more reliant on the easier games then I would like. Hall is more effective in battle hardened games just due to his speed and physical gifts. He's already learning to bull and will be a powerforward if his shoulders are up to it.
RNH is actually better than Eberle at making plays in tight coverage with his play on the Gagner game winner being a perfect example.
Not going to argue that Hall isn't better in tight checking games, but none of the Oilers stars are particularly strong against that type of game either way. Hall just gives them more of a headache. A particular thing I've noticed is that once he's able to open up that space for his teammates, his ability to get the puck to them is less than stellar, whether it be a bad decision or pass.
If the kid ever took stickhandling lessons from Eberle he'd probably be the most dangerous player in the league.