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[Shaffer]

Sullivan would never sit Kuhnhackl to have a fourth line of Sheary-Sheahan-Simon. “Not enough PKing ability.” But seriously, who would PK in this lineup?

Guentzel-Crosby-Hornqvist
Hagelin-Malkin-Rust
ZAR-Brassard-Kessel
Sheary-Sheahan-Simon

I’d say Sheahan, Hagelin, Rust, ZAR(?), and Guentzel.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Sullivan would never sit Kuhnhackl to have a fourth line of Sheary-Sheahan-Simon. “Not enough PKing ability.” But seriously, who would PK in this lineup?

Guentzel-Crosby-Hornqvist
Hagelin-Malkin-Rust
ZAR-Brassard-Kessel
Sheary-Sheahan-Simon

I’d say Sheahan, Hagelin, Rust, ZAR(?), and Guentzel.

When the call-ups are allowed again, I'd probably bring Jooris in for Simon. And I'm okay with playing Kuhn until then.

Getting ZAR into the top 9 over Sheary is the move I most want to see.

 

[Speaking Moistly]

Sullivan would never sit Kuhnhackl to have a fourth line of Sheary-Sheahan-Simon. “Not enough PKing ability.” But seriously, who would PK in this lineup?

Guentzel-Crosby-Hornqvist
Hagelin-Malkin-Rust
ZAR-Brassard-Kessel
Sheary-Sheahan-Simon

I’d say Sheahan, Hagelin, Rust, ZAR(?), and Guentzel.

Pretty much. Brassard and Crosby have also seen some time this season, Malkin could in a pinch and Hornqvist is psychotic enough to probably be okay. It’s not a matter of having no one else who can PK.


What I wonder is with the PK being trash are they driven away from PK specialists or towards needing them? That should be the concern because king useless is back in practice after being promised it was longer term.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I'm intrigued with an Oleksiak-Letang pair, for sure. I like how it gives both the 2nd and 3rd pairs a guy who can anchor that pair, but can Oleksiak handle those minutes with Letang? We'll see. If that pair works out, suddenly the Penguins defense looks a lot better.

 

[Gurglesons]

I'm intrigued with an Oleksiak-Letang pair, for sure. I like how it gives both the 2nd and 3rd pairs a guy who can anchor that pair, but can Oleksiak handle those minutes with Letang? We'll see. If that pair works out, suddenly the Penguins defense looks a lot better.

Maybe, they’ll you know.. cut back on Letang’s minutes and let the 13 million dollar top 4 actually play what they are paid to do.

It is asisine deployment to pay ten million dollars to Schultz and Maatta who played 18 and 16 respectively last game.

 

[Speaking Moistly]

 

[Andy99]

Pretty much. Brassard and Crosby have also seen some time this season, Malkin could in a pinch and Hornqvist is psychotic enough to probably be okay. It’s not a matter of having no one else who can PK.


What I wonder is with the PK being trash are they driven away from PK specialists or towards needing them? That should be the concern because king useless is back in practice after being promised it was longer term.

The PK being trash has little to do with the personnel...well, not exactly. It has to do with the personnel not putting in the effort to block shots because that’s how we PK...hard to blame them in the RS. Who wants to be injured for the POs...

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Please put ZAR with Brassard and Kessel, Sullivan.

But I thought some folks insisted Crosby dictated who he played with and refused to play with Hornqvist.

 

[Ogrezilla]

But I thought some folks insisted Crosby dictated who he played with and refused to play with Hornqvist.

I think there's a clear difference between words like refused and dictates compared to him preferring something.

 

[Andy99]

I’d prefer ZAR tried with Brass and Phil than the current lines. Drop down Sheary and sit either him or Kuhn....preferably Kuhn because the guy has hands of stone....Sheary need to learn how to handle a puck and stop falling down but at least he gets one in every once in awhile....

 

[Turin]

I think there's a clear difference between words like refused and dictates compared to him preferring something.

It’s true. But it’s also true that dictate and defuse are the exact words most theorists use.

 

[NMK11]

Pretty much. Brassard and Crosby have also seen some time this season, Malkin could in a pinch and Hornqvist is psychotic enough to probably be okay. It’s not a matter of having no one else who can PK.


What I wonder is with the PK being trash are they driven away from PK specialists or towards needing them? That should be the concern because king useless is back in practice after being promised it was longer term.

This had me cracking up. I got sudden pictures of horny skating full speed for a solid minute on the PK howling at everyone he was approaching with the puck.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

I think there's a clear difference between words like refused and dictates compared to him preferring something.

Of course there is. But some on this forum act like Crosby actually dictates who he plays with, and that's why Hornqvist isn't always on his line despite them producing.

The problem with that theory is Hornqvist inevitably ends back on his line. So if Crosby has as much power as some folks suggest AND he hates playing with Hornqvist, then you'd never see him paired. Yet here we are.

 

[Ogrezilla]

Of course there is. But some on this forum act like Crosby actually dictates who he plays with, and that's why Hornqvist isn't always on his line despite them producing.

The problem with that theory is Hornqvist inevitably ends back on his line. So if Crosby has as much power as some folks suggest AND he hates playing with Hornqvist, then you'd never see him paired. Yet here we are.

That's true, there are some crazy folks.

I think the truth is that he prefers to play a faster game, but when push comes to shove he is perfectly willing to play with Horny since he knows it works. But when possible, the coaches seem to go with what he prefers. That's my take.

 

[Pancakes]

That's true, there are some crazy folks.

I think the truth is that he prefers to play a faster game, but when push comes to shove he is perfectly willing to play with Horny since he knows it works. But when possible, the coaches seem to go with what he prefers. That's my take.

I think his primary irritation with Hornqvist is how north/south he is. I have seen many many occasions where Hornqvist fails to spot Sid with the puck and Sid gets this furious look on his face.

It's Horny's lack of playmaking that primarily frustrates him I think. But Horny is undeniably helpful to both Sid and Geno on retrievals so it's something both ought to learn to live with.

 

[Ryder71]

I like the Oleksiak-Letang pairing for some reason.

That could go bad real quick though. Oleksiak likes to pinch quite a lot. I'd probably put Maatta with Letang. The highest hockey IQ on defense with the lowest.

Anyone watching WB? Is there anyone down there who's physical, blocks shots and is effective on the PK?

Any college free agent defensemen available?

 

[AjaxTelamon]

So with Ian Cole in the lineup this year we were PK'ing at an 82.5% rate (T-7th in the league), without him we're at 70%, 4.5% worse than the worst team in the league. I know MM has been out recently and all, but that's still no bueno.

 

[Gurglesons]

So with Ian Cole in the lineup this year we were PK'ing at an 82.5% rate (T-7th in the league), without him we're at 70%, 4.5% worse than the worst team in the league. I know MM has been out recently and all, but that's still no bueno.

Neat.

 

[Ogrezilla]

So with Ian Cole in the lineup this year we were PK'ing at an 82.5% rate (T-7th in the league), without him we're at 70%, 4.5% worse than the worst team in the league. I know MM has been out recently and all, but that's still no bueno.

who else was in and out of those games?

 

[NeedleInTheHay]

A lot of good news there.

Hornqvist with Crosby, rust with Malkin, and Zar coming back.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Sullivan would never sit Kuhnhackl to have a fourth line of Sheary-Sheahan-Simon. “Not enough PKing ability.” But seriously, who would PK in this lineup?

Guentzel-Crosby-Hornqvist
Hagelin-Malkin-Rust
ZAR-Brassard-Kessel
Sheary-Sheahan-Simon

I’d say Sheahan, Hagelin, Rust, ZAR(?), and Guentzel.

I could see this, but with Rowney in for Simon. Sheary would replace Simon on the 4th line and the 4th line would be Sheary-Sheahan-Rowney.

 

[Gurglesons]

Sullivan would never sit Kuhnhackl to have a fourth line of Sheary-Sheahan-Simon. “Not enough PKing ability.” But seriously, who would PK in this lineup?

Guentzel-Crosby-Hornqvist
Hagelin-Malkin-Rust
ZAR-Brassard-Kessel
Sheary-Sheahan-Simon

I’d say Sheahan, Hagelin, Rust, ZAR(?), and Guentzel.

Didn’t he already scratch Kuhn and Rowney for Simon and ZAR?

 

[Tom Hanks]

Didn’t he already scratch Kuhn and Rowney for Simon and ZAR?

Kuhnhackl was hurt. Rowney was scratched.

 

[TheGoldenJet]

Please put ZAR with Brassard and Kessel, Sullivan.

I like these lines. Horny works with Sid, let’s just hope Rust’s concussion issues are behind him.

 

[AjaxTelamon]

who else was in and out of those games?

Nothing particularly consistent that I could glean from looking at game logs. Cole was a primary PK'r, and I don't think that numbers like that would hold up over a larger sample, but I do think we're a worse PK team without an adequate Cole replacement. I believe our earlier PK swoon was also timed with Cole's extended benching, if memory serves, and it improved when he came back.