Discussion in 'International Tournaments' started by Eye of Ra, Oct 29, 2018.
What would best possible team USA look like right now?
So I have a bit of an issue with the wingers and one massive problem on D unless this is because Seth Jones, the best USA D-man is hurt and that factors into right now.
Blake Wheeler, Kyle Connor, Cam Atkinson, Anders Lee and probably Palmieri and Oshie deserve mentions as well even if they don't go and I would take some of these guys over what was listed.
This is the golden era of USA hockey though. I doubt the NHL can turn down the Olympics with a Team USA that does for the first time ever look stacked and comparable to Canada on paper by the time 2022 rolls around. I think both the Hughes boys would be on the china team as well. It is the deepest and most talented we have been since the mid-90s and I actually like this group more on a talent level.
Gaudreau - Matthews - Kane
DeBrincat - Eichel - Wheeler
Kreider - Trocheck - Kessel
Connor - Larkin - Oshie
Suter - Jones
Slavin - Carlson
Fowler - McAvoy
Gaudreau- Matthews- Kane
Larkin- Eichel- Wheeler
Connor- Trocheck- Kessel
Tkachuk- Miller- Oshie
Gaudreau- Matthews- Kessel
Connor- Eichel- Wheeler
C- Ryan Suter
A- Blake Wheeler
A- Patrick Kane
i forgot jones, he is in my team now .
I'd have a Slavin/McDonagh to balance out the LD/RD. I know some people dismiss it, but it's a tough assumption to shift a RH D to expect him to perform equally well on the left side especially when righties tend to play the right side exclusively. Some lefties will play the right side out of necessity and get used to it.
As others mentioned, guys like Wheeler/Connor/Palmieri/Atkinson/Oshie/Miller/Lee probably should be in consideration especially if you have one of the Tkachuks penciled in on their opposite wing. It's personal preference, but I'd probably have Chris Kreider in my mix as well.
yeah, sorry Ra, your wingers are off for my liking...
and if injuries are factored in then Matthews would be a no go...but if not, then Jones lines up in the top 4 hands down.
Johnny Gaudreau - Auston Matthews - Patrick Kane(A)
Blake Wheeler - Jack Eichel - Phil Kessel
Anders Lee - Dylan Larkin - Clayton Keller
Matthew Tkachuk -Vincent Trocheck - T.J Oshie
EX:Kyle Connor/Alex DeBrincat/Brock Boeser
Ryan Suter(A) - John Carlson
Zach Werenski - Seth Jones
Jaccob Slavin - Charlie McAvoy
EXustin Byfuglien/Cam Fowler/Shayne Gostisbehere
Jon Quick - needs to be healthy
Good luck playing against Tkachuk, Trocheck, Oshie lol
The only other country that can compete top to bottom in depth is obviously Canada who would still be ahead of this group, but put anyone but Torts behind this bench and this squad should be playing for the Gold.
USA right now would be as good or better than any country. The competition's so deep that it'd have to leave some very good players behind.
Like, I can't see how a team that should prioritize clutch performance could leave Guentzel at home, but it'd be hard to work him in.
shame on no Keller from you guys!!
This is the best one
I thought about posting a couple times and every time I kept remembering somebody. Last round being Keller and Boeser. Should be some fun decisions for the next WC/OG.
You are forgiven my friend....it is a great problem to have when there is a dozen or so names for each position that are legit contenders, and many more on the way!
Sooo...what? No Carlson is the issue?
There are plenty of issues.
Boeser - Matthews - Kane
Gaudreau - Eichel - Wheeler
Keller - Trochek - Kessel
Kreider - Larkin - Lee
Slavin - Carlson
McDonagh - Jones
Suter - McAvoy
If their is a weakness, it may be in goal? The forward lines are deep, skilled and fast.
You might have the biggest issues in net. This is a good team, but they still lose to Canada.
Gibson has been the best goalie in the league so far this year and Helle is a Vezina finalist?
Goaltending depth has gone from a strength to a relative weakness but I would put Gibson against what any other country has to offer.
Are either of them that "lights out" kind of goalie from past years like Mike Richter? None of them scare you in particular. Richter always scared me because when he hit that zone he was freakish. Bobrovsky has won the Vezina but he isn't a guy I'd worry about facing either.
No. Richter especially in 96 was a killer. I just don’t know I’d term the position a worrying weakness. Gibson is definitely playing at an extremely high level currently and does have the international pedigree, at least at the junior level.
I don't think the U.S. needs a Mike Richter performance from '96 to win a best on best tournament at this point. Sound team construction/coaching are more pressing issues.
He's won a bronze at the men's worlds as well.
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