Team toughness

[Chytilmania]

This is why I think Lindgren makes the roster. Him and Smith need to be given every chance to make the lineup. Smith should be able to have a good offseason and play his game now that AV will be gone, but we have a very soft defense. Pionk plays hard and shows toughness but Smith and Lindgren can bring more physical toughness. Then we have Lias, Kreider, Zucc and Fast, plus Chytil is a bull who plays hard.

 

[NYR Viper]

I love how people shit on ADA. How many people would take Julius Honka? 4 points in 42 games last season in Dallas. 22 years old. It takes guys longer to develop sometimes. ADA looked better as the year progressed. He still make a bad decision here and there but that comes with the territory of actually carrying the puck and looking to make a play.

I agree, he also brings an edge to his game

 

[Beer League Sniper]

I love how people **** on ADA. How many people would take Julius Honka? 4 points in 42 games last season in Dallas. 22 years old. It takes guys longer to develop sometimes. ADA looked better as the year progressed. He still make a bad decision here and there but that comes with the territory of actually carrying the puck and looking to make a play.

I agree, he also brings an edge to his game

Completely agree. He could be a poor man's PK Subban in terms of style. This team needs a troll with some actual skill and nastiness. It's been missing since Avery left.

 

[Off Sides]

At least this thread is starting to turn towards something the Rangers need far more than toughness, more defenders who have enough talent to eventually possibly play above the 3rd pair and do well with those minutes/match-ups.

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

I would argue that a player can be tough, and even "hard to play against", without being a d-bag. Again, Kreider, when he's on his game, would be a good example.

Get me more guys like that. No need for Avery types any more than there is for goons.

 

[NYR Viper]

I would argue that a player can be tough, and even "hard to play against", without being a d-bag. Again, Kreider, when he's on his game, would be a good example.

Get me more guys like that. No need for Avery types any more than there is for goons.

I would disagree. Kreider when he is on his game plays like a d-bag. I wish he brought it more often honestly. Playing hard consistently makes opposing teams hate you because you make their life difficult. That's my definition

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

I would disagree. Kreider when he is on his game plays like a d-bag. I wish he brought it more often honestly. Playing hard consistently makes opposing teams hate you because you make their life difficult. That's my definition

Nah, disagree completely. Kreider playing like a bull in a china shop is very different from Avery slashing at players' ankles, making reprehensible comments about their loved ones, and other BS antics. The difference is pretty cut-and-dried, IMO.

 

[tradenashnow]

Buchnevich is as soft as a marshmallow. No loss if they use him to trade up in the draft.

 

[NYR Viper]

Nah, disagree completely. Kreider playing like a bull in a china shop is very different from Avery slashing at players' ankles, making reprehensible comments about their loved ones, and other BS antics. The difference is pretty cut-and-dried, IMO.

Doesn't it depend on your definition? Was Callahan a PIA? I am sure other teams fans felt he was a d-bag. I feel like Wayne Simmonds is a d-bag but that's mainly because of the intensity he plays with and his consistent physical style.

I think we are speaking with different definitions in mind

 

[Filthy Dangles]

almost 100 posts in and this hasn't been posted.

sickening. will never forget this. how Eakin received no response and how Skeij just casually carries the puck still rustles my jimmies to this day.

 

[FireGerardGallant]

Buchnevich is as soft as a marshmallow. No loss if they use him to trade up in the draft.

Trading your fourth highest scorer isn't a loss?

 

[Wamsutta]

It's dangerous business developing a roster based on a perceived need for tuffness. Marian Gaborik gets beaten up one time and we draft Dylan McIlrath. I'll never stop laughing at that knee-jerk reaction.

 

[Thirty One]

Has anyone actually been seriously advocating for 1970s / early 80s style meat heads ?

Or has it just been intentional obtuseness as usual?

When McLeod was claimed, there was a sense among a small group that we've seen the opposition touch a Ranger player for the last time.

 

[Thirty One]

Buchnevich is as soft as a marshmallow. No loss if they use him to trade up in the draft.

You have made this post 12 times. Your next sub sandwich is free.

 

[NYRFANMANI]

Buch being soft is partially untrue. I can recall a couple of times where he tried to be tough. Succeeded not many times.
Doesn't matter because Buch is perfectly servicable as he is. He's a sick playmaker and skilled forward. Needs to be complemented ( ) though, with a sniper and TWF, but that's the nature of our club right now. We don't have anchors like other teams. Except for Hank and he's in net.

Anyhow, yes we need toughness. It's means gnarl, bite, vengeance, not f***ing goonery, not bad penalties and ineptitude otherwise. So many teams have skilled tough players in the game TODAY! I'd kill to have f***ing Hornqvist f. ex. or at least some kind of physical philosophy on our team.
I have watched the King being ran over so many times for so many years. And even then it told us that he's basically the only man in the army. Seldomly anybody cared to step in.

Toughness remains one of the holes of this team. Although the rookie stock on LHD looks promising.

[MOD]

 

[Glennsoe]

Still love to get Simmonds on our team..

 

[Brooklyn Rangers Fan]

Still love to get Simmonds on our team..

Would prefer to find an 18-22 year old player who can become our own version of Simmonds.

 

[Machinehead]

We already have a better version of Simmonds, so I wouldn't be willing to pay the price it would cost.

 

[Wamsutta]

Simmonds is awesome but he would definitely not be a cheap get. Doesn't make sense in a rebuild.

 

[Thirty One]

Would prefer to find an 18-22 year old player who can become our own version of Simmonds.

Yeah, Simmonds is one of my favorite players in the league, but he's at the age (for his playing style) where you really start to wonder how long his body will hold up.

 

[NYR Viper]

We already have a better version of Simmonds, so I wouldn't be willing to pay the price it would cost.

Wouldn't it be nice to get another one?

I like the idea of Domi and Bennett, both players play with a bit of an edge.

I've mentioned Brendan Lemiuex as a player who might fit as a depth forward who may be blocked a bit in Winnipeg. He also brings some offense with 43 points in 51 games in the AHL at 22 years old.

Those are the types of players, and around the age of player, I'd be targeting.

 

[Machinehead]

Wouldn't it be nice to get another one?

I like the idea of Domi and Bennett, both players play with a bit of an edge.

I've mentioned Brendan Lemiuex as a player who might fit as a depth forward who may be blocked a bit in Winnipeg. He also brings some offense with 43 points in 51 games in the AHL at 22 years old.

Those are the types of players, and around the age of player, I'd be targeting.

It would be amazing to get another one, but I wouldn't pay the cost on Simmonds if it isn't a desperate need.

Now getting one of those younger guys is a different story. They won't cost as much as Simmonds who has multiple 30 goal seasons and is making UFA money. I say hell yes to that.

Domi is the reincarnation of Prime Sean Avery. They even wear the same number.

 

[Filthy Dangles]

Domi is the reincarnation of Prime Sean Avery. They even wear the same number.

That'd be pretty disappointing for Max and the Yotes/what every team he's on going forward. Max has been a much better contributor / offensive player at every level of hockey.

 

[NYR Viper]

It would be amazing to get another one, but I wouldn't pay the cost on Simmonds if it isn't a desperate need.

Now getting one of those younger guys is a different story. They won't cost as much as Simmonds who has multiple 30 goal seasons and is making UFA money. I say hell yes to that.

Domi is the reincarnation of Prime Sean Avery. They even wear the same number.

Agreed on Simmonds, Finding a younger version of him would be ideal though

 

[Machinehead]

That'd be pretty disappointing for Max and the Yotes/what every team he's on going forward. Max has been a much better contributor / offensive player at every level of hockey.

I would still gladly take it on this team.