Confirmed with Link: [TBL/SJS] Lightning trade Jack Thompson and a 3rd rd pick for Anthony Duclair and a 7th rd pick

Rschmitz

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Ok, you don't do any of this. It's all f***ed. The team is f***ed, the GM is r*t*rder and we should do a half rebuild on-the-fly while keeping only a handful of worthy players.

Better?


I know this sounds pretty crazy but....

We can just not make any moves right now
 
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DFC

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Right, he doesn't have to sign with us, he's a rental. You don't give up one of your top prospects and a third round pick just to see if someone is going to gel
Well, in other years you probably do. ;)

I don't have much faith in any of our prospects honestly. At least not beyond trade bait. Howard included. I just feel like the actual, massive decisions that have to be made with this team have to be made in June. And more assets in our pocket means more options.

I'm hoping that JBB and the staff really do like Duclair. Like, maybe this is a guy we have tried to bring in before. The worst case is he comes in, puts on a good show while the team flounders all around him, we miss the playoffs, and now we don't have Thompson or a 3rd to improve next year's team, which is gonna need an overhaul even if Vasy does find his game.
 

Todd1a

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Fine with it if we resign Duclair. Not a big fan if we don't, because Duclair is not gonna move the needle on the 2024 Lightning.
I think this is the stamkos replacement JBB will sign Duclair for 3-4 years for 3-4 million per season.

Then he has money still to sign a defenseman
 

Rschmitz

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Well, in other years you probably do. ;)

I don't have much faith in any of our prospects honestly. At least not beyond trade bait. Howard included. I just feel like the actual, massive decisions that have to be made with this team have to be made in June. And more assets in our pocket means more options.

I'm hoping that JBB and the staff really do like Duclair. Like, maybe this is a guy we have tried to bring in before. The worst case is he comes in, puts on a good show while the team flounders all around him, we miss the playoffs, and now we don't have Thompson or a 3rd to improve next year's team, which is gonna need an overhaul even if Vasy does find his game.

In other years we were comfortably in the playoffs by now, rentals made sense even if they didn't ultimately work out.
 
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Rschmitz

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I think this is the stamkos replacement JBB will sign Duclair for 3-4 years for 3-4 million per season.

Then he has money still to sign a defenseman

If this is what JBB actually had in mind I'm fully on the fire JBB train.

Tomorrow's press conference should basically tells us that isn't the case....at least it had better.

Yep he will replace Stamkos


So
Your ready to pay Stamkos 6 million per year for 4 years ?

For 5 million yes. Take him off the top two lines and make him a PP specialist, his cost and role would be perfect.
 
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TheSchmidt

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I always liked Duclair, but found it concerning that Florida (at least in the series against us) would demote him to the 4th line and sometimes even scratch him.

This trade only makes sense if they re-sign him. Team is going absolutely nowhere and wasting the few assets we have on a rental just isn't smart.

I just hope Cooper keeps him in the top 6.
 

Todd1a

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If this is what JBB actually had in mind I'm fully on the fire JBB train.

Tomorrow's press conference should basically tells us that isn't the case....at least it had better.



For 5 million yes. Take him off the top two lines and make him a PP specialist, his cost and role would be perfect.
I’m good with 5 million per year for Stamkos but that’s the absolute most I’d pay him all he is now is a power play one timer guy
 

Todd1a

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I love getting Duclair, hate giving up Thompson, and hate that the defense is still ass. I think that's fair. Team is f***ed regardless
There is still another day to trade for a defenseman lol

Anthony Duclair is not replying Stamkos lol. Even if Stamkos leaves. Thats preposterous lol
If you sign Hanifin then duclair is all that’s left in our price range we clearly want an elite defenseman to start fixing this mess
 

VinikToWinIt

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I didn’t realize we were so high on Jack Thompson.

Feels like if we didn’t take a dump on the ice tonight people would like this trade.
 

TheDaysOf 04

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What are people's opinion of Thompson vs Crozier?

The other righty's in the cupboard are:

Roman Schmidt
Eamon Powell
Dyllan Gill
Warren Clark

Roman Schmidt is the only player with a contract.

Bolts will need to make a decision on both Eamon Powell and Dyllan Gill this spring.
 
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RussianGuyovich

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seems like (to me) the coaching staff didn't like thompson's size, which....ok, i guess. but i trust thompson making it more than i trust our scouts to draft a better defenseman, honestly.
 

Flat Ronnie

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seems like (to me) the coaching staff didn't like thompson's size, which....ok, i guess. but i trust thompson making it more than i trust our scouts to draft a better defenseman, honestly.
More additions to the list of people who need to go:

The GM
The head coach
The scouting department
The captain
The starting goalie
Cirelli
Sergachev
Cernak
Sheary
DeHaan
Jeannot
Perbix
 

Hockeyville USA

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What are people's opinion of Thompson vs Crozier?

The other righty's in the cupboard are:

Roman Schmidt
Eamon Powell
Dyllan Gill
Warren Clark

Roman Schmidt is the only player with a contract.

Bolts will need to make a decision on both Eamon Powell and Dyllan Gill this spring.
This makes me think they're signing Eamon Powell assuming he wants to sign. Powell had zero path to the NHL with Thompson and Crozier ahead of him
 

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