Friedman: Tampa still looking at right shot D

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What player would Tampa most likely want to move that most on here would "consider" a cap dump going back to acquire a RHD?

Not saying Tampa players are a cap dump, but sending out a player with a cap hit of 4-6M lets say allows them to trade for a D with a similar cap hit and be able to extend that player if they are a UFA this summer or next year...if Tampa wanted to do that just the McDonaugh extension
 

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Doug MacLean just linked Ceci to Tampa

One thing that people should consider:

Ceci can be used as a rental and then have assets recouped afterwards..

Lets say Tampa gives up a 1st for him (or a 2nd, or a 3rd, whatever...), they can then use him for the season and then, in the offseason, trade him to a team that is interested and able to extend him longterm and can probably return a similar amount as they paid in the first place

Of course, if they lose Girardi and/or Stralman for whatever reason, they still have Ceci as an insurance policy and they will likely know what direction each guy is planning on going well before they need to deal with Ceci
 

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That seems kind of insanely high.

I absolutely agree if your understanding of what Petry brings is that of your average HF poster.

On one of the most mediocre offensive teams in the League, with the worst powerplay in the League, Petry has managed to find himself 12th for points for defenseman. He is more than capable of playing 20+ minutes a night without being a liability at either end of the ice, and what he lacks in physical presence he makes up for in offensive capability and vision.

He is a guy that you can trust to be on the ice when Hedman isn't, or you can play him alongside Hedman and make that first pair offensively lethal. He is also signed at a sweet 5.5m for the next 3 years, which the Habs could also eat some of (in the deal I proposed, obviously the Habs eat a bit of cap to make it more enticing).

Petry is unequivocally a top 30D in the NHL for this season, and he likely would become your #1 guy on the right side playing with Hedman. Not only is he likely the best second pairing defenseman in the league after Parayko and maybe Ellis; he has proven that he can be a reliable #2 guy on the first pairing.

The draft pick is likely to be 29-31. Columbus's 2nd will be somewhere around the 50s, so the jump isn't as crazy as it seems.

Cal Foote is a great asset, but is a bit slow on the developmental side and I believe that having Weber as a mentor could do wonders for his future. He is in no way a bust or anything, but he is also not looking as great in the AHL as he did in the WHL.

Tyler Johnson is a fantastic player, signed to a pretty team friendly contract, but he is only a 50-60 point guy across his career, and he has played on some of the best offensive groups in the NHL. He would be a phenomenal 2C for Montreal and it would allow the Lightning to address an area of weakness (RD) while moving out a player from a position of extreme strength (C)
 

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What player would Tampa most likely want to move that most on here would "consider" a cap dump going back to acquire a RHD?

Not saying Tampa players are a cap dump, but sending out a player with a cap hit of 4-6M lets say allows them to trade for a D with a similar cap hit and be able to extend that player if they are a UFA this summer or next year...if Tampa wanted to do that just the McDonaugh extension
Ryan Callahan ($5.8M, 1 year left) comes to mind but he'll be tough to move because with his contract and (lack of) production (he's merely a 4th liner and PK specialist nowadays) would require Tampa to add a lot. Plus he has a M-NTC (has to submit a 16 team trade list).
JT Miller ($5.25M, 4 years left) has way more value (legit top-6 forward, victim of our depth though) and his M-NTC (submits 8 team no-trade list) doesn't kick in until summer.

Far less likely: Gourde (no clause), Johnson (full NTC), Palat (full NTC)... because they are still considered 'extended core' (especially Johnson).
 

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I'd do that Blues deal real quick, but wouldn't plan on resigning him. Maroon has a history with Cooper and adds a big body to the bottom 6 who's been a decent producer for his role in the past but very disappointing (just looking at stats at least) for St. Louis.

Get Pietrangelo to replace a body leaving the D through UFA next season. Have a top 4 of some kind of combo of Hedman, Pietrangelo, McDonagh, Sergachev and Cernak. Then have one of Masin or Foote take the empty spot. The other steps up the next season when Pietrangelo's deal is up. Maroon comes off after this season and we get rid of the last year of Callahan.

Deal Miller for straight futures in the offseason.
As a Blues fan I wouldn’t.
 

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Ryan Callahan ($5.8M, 1 year left) comes to mind but he'll be tough to move because with his contract and (lack of) production (he's merely a 4th liner and PK specialist nowadays) would require Tampa to add a lot. Plus he has a M-NTC (has to submit a 16 team trade list).
JT Miller ($5.25M, 4 years left) has way more value (legit top-6 forward, victim of our depth though) and his M-NTC (submits 8 team no-trade list) doesn't kick in until summer.

Far less likely: Gourde (no clause), Johnson (full NTC), Palat (full NTC)... because they are still considered 'extended core' (especially Johnson).

On Tampa he is a 4th liner, and his production has been more above average 4th line ES production, and gets limited ice time. He has also been very good in defense and one of the best on the team in Goals Agaist/60 and shot suppression. Doubt it will take that much to move him. He could easily upgrade a lot of teams Bottom 6 and PK.
 
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Ryan Callahan ($5.8M, 1 year left) comes to mind but he'll be tough to move because with his contract and (lack of) production (he's merely a 4th liner and PK specialist nowadays) would require Tampa to add a lot. Plus he has a M-NTC (has to submit a 16 team trade list).
Would find a player or two of need on those 16 teams and use him as a salary dump.
 

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Would find a player or two of need on those 16 teams and use him as a salary dump.

Tampa could retain some of Callahan’s salary, and would give him positive value, this isn’t a typical cap dump situation where the guy is not playing or is not effective and a liability on the ice. If a deal is going to work to package for a D, then think the retention will be important .
 
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I tell you what one person who I would love the bolts to go for would be Montour, I don’t know what it would cost but I think he would be a great addition.
 
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It'll be Stralman's last big contract, there's no guarantee he will stay in Tampa
That's true and it would probably take him putting more value on keeping his family in the area to take that amount of money when he's likely to get offered a good bit more elsewhere... but we're pretty confident he wants to stay. We shall see...
 

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