GDT: Tampa Bay Lightning @ Toronto Maple Leafs @ 7:00pm / SNO

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Marshy

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Fogelhund

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and it's also 12th now and was 9th last year, and generates chances at a far lower rate

Strange logic.

If Matthews scores 50 goals this year, but ends up 30th in goal scoring, compared to his 37 goals last year, but 17th in scoring... would he have had a poorer year?

Our success rate on the PP is better than it was last year.... how that is comparative to other teams, or chances generated are irrelevant at this point. Just execution.
 

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Leafs should feel super honored that the Raps gave the ball to him. Don't take it for granted and actually win!
The Raps could've easily given the ball to TFC who begin their post-season next weekend, but chose the Leafs instead.
Probably because the Leafs management/players were very supportive of the Raptors during their championship run and they definitely took note of that.
Hopefully Masai passed down some words of wisdom to Dubas. That man is an absolute genius, best executive in the league.
 
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CantLoseWithMatthews

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Strange logic.

If Matthews scores 50 goals this year, but ends up 30th in goal scoring, compared to his 37 goals last year, but 17th in scoring... would he have had a poorer year?

Our success rate on the PP is better than it was last year.... how that is comparative to other teams, or chances generated are irrelevant at this point. Just execution.
why wouldn't you compare our PP to other teams? and it's only "better" now mostly due to luck. In terms of actually generating scoring chances it's way worse now
 
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Fogelhund

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why wouldn't you compare our PP to other teams? and it's only "better" now mostly due to luck. In terms of actually generating scoring chances it's way worse now

Our PP is better this year than last year. That's all that matters. Our results so far are better.

Luck huh? Have you watched the games? Those cross ice passes, to shooting on a mostly empty net are luck? Interesting... it's been execution so far... at least by PP1... PP2 has been terrible.

That said... it's early in the season so far... there isn't a lot of data to look out.. so best to look at things at 10 games, and 20.... But just because other teams are improved over last year, doesn't change that so far... we've executed at a better rate.
 

CantLoseWithMatthews

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Our PP is better this year than last year. That's all that matters. Our results so far are better.

Luck huh? Have you watched the games? Those cross ice passes, to shooting on a mostly empty net are luck? Interesting... it's been execution so far... at least by PP1... PP2 has been terrible.

That said... it's early in the season so far... there isn't a lot of data to look out.. so best to look at things at 10 games, and 20.... But just because other teams are improved over last year, doesn't change that so far... we've executed at a better rate.
no, it's not. The Leafs are in a competitive league with 30 other teams, and our PP only matters as far as the advantage (or lack thereof) it gives us. We're not talking about some kid playing a game by himself and trying to beat his own personal best. If the Leafs get 101 points this year and end up missing the playoffs, would you say it's a step forward?
 
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Fogelhund

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no, it's not. The Leafs are in a competitive league with 30 other teams, and our PP only matters as far as the advantage (or lack thereof) it gives us. We're not talking about some kid playing a game by himself and trying to beat his own personal best. If the Leafs get 101 points this year and end up missing the playoffs, would you say it's a step forward?


LOL... Ok, Enjoy arguing with a cloud. I mean truly bizarre way to try and argue out of being wrong... but whatever. Apples and Oranges... Points in a season, vs. PP rate of success. and missing the playoffs with 101 points? That's a dreamland fantasy example. You make the playoffs with 101 points...
 
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Suntouchable13

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Our PP is better this year than last year. That's all that matters. Our results so far are better.

Luck huh? Have you watched the games? Those cross ice passes, to shooting on a mostly empty net are luck? Interesting... it's been execution so far... at least by PP1... PP2 has been terrible.

That said... it's early in the season so far... there isn't a lot of data to look out.. so best to look at things at 10 games, and 20.... But just because other teams are improved over last year, doesn't change that so far... we've executed at a better rate.

Our PP was better in October than the rest of the season last year too. It's too early to say the PP is better.
 
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CantLoseWithMatthews

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LOL... Ok, Enjoy arguing with a cloud. I mean truly bizarre way to try and argue out of being wrong... but whatever. Apples and Oranges... Points in a season, vs. PP rate of success. and missing the playoffs with 101 points? That's a dreamland fantasy example. You make the playoffs with 101 points...
All I said was the powerplay is worse because it's worse relative to the rest of the league and is struggling to generate opportunities as much as last year. I don't know why that's so difficult to understand, but I'm not wrong at all
 
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