Tallon’s time is up? (2020 edition)

[PSLguy]

Do you think Bob would waive to go to a contender who's goalie is aging? He has to be disappointed in this team.

 

[ShootIt]

Do you think Bob would waive to go to a contender who's goalie is aging? He has to be disappointed in this team.

I'm sure, but no one is touching that deal without retention and picks. Picks are on thing, but a 2-4 + dead cap hit for nothing will suck

 

[CatscratchFever]

Just popping in to see if DT has been smoked yet.

 

[RogerRoger]

Do you think Bob would waive to go to a contender who's goalie is aging? He has to be disappointed in this team.

Why would a contender want a goalie that's playing terribly? The only hope is that he bounces back next season. That or he sucks again and we make him the backup and he gets uppity and pack his things for the KHL.

 

[PsychoPanther]

I can easily see how owners give Tallon another year. Before this season coach Q didn't know that much about this team beside that it's core has a lot of talent. Now he went through full season, he learned the dark sides of this roster and hopefully he knows what has to be fixed. Tallon (with help of Q) will have to work hard this summer to improve this roster and finally take it to another level.

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

I can easily see how owners give Tallon another year. Before this season coach Q didn't know that much about this team beside that it's core has a lot of talent. Now he went through full season, he learned the dark sides of this roster and hopefully he knows what has to be fixed. Tallon (with help of Q) will have to work hard this summer to improve this roster and finally take it to another level.

Yawn... Dale's been trying to do that for the past ten years. Time for some other dude at the helm.

 

[Henkka]

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We are competing with Boston, Tampa, and Toronto. They make better roster moves, faster. They get better faster. We lag behind planning for some future that will never happen.

It's interesting, like in a decade, Detroit, Buffalo and Ottawa completing their rebuilds, being the new division Contenders and see TOR/BOS/TBL at bottom of the league, Panthers still at 9.spot of East and chasing for the playoff spot.

 

[CatscratchFever]

I can easily see how owners give Tallon another year. Before this season coach Q didn't know that much about this team beside that it's core has a lot of talent. Now he went through full season, he learned the dark sides of this roster and hopefully he knows what has to be fixed. Tallon (with help of Q) will have to work hard this summer to improve this roster and finally take it to another level.

Are you saying that DT requires a coach to direct him how to do his job properly?!?! GTFOH.

 

[Verdadplus]

Should have been fired for the Bobrovsky contract
Trochek trade strategically correct but got
nothing for him

 

[StrangeVision]

Is Tallon still here? That's a shame.

 

[MintyFresh88]

When is it going to end with this franchise? We wanted Rowe gone, then he got fired. We wanted Boughner gone, then he got fired. Now we want Tallon gone (again) and he may get fired.

There's not a single reason for me to believe anything will change moving forward with or without Tallon. There's always someone to blame - coach, players, training staff, management, ownership...the list goes on.

We've been cap floor, we've been middle of the pack, we've been cap ceiling. We've had cheap coaches, we've had expensive coaches. We've had hockey people, non-hockey people.

I don't know where we go from here...it's really a defeated feeling. Every time something good happens with this franchise, it either backfires completely or ends in utter disappointment.

 

[PsychoPanther]

Are you saying that DT requires a coach to direct him how to do his job properly?!?! GTFOH.

Head coach does not direct GM, but GM definitely asks HC's opinion about team's roster.

 

[Crossbar]

Unless things get turned around and the season is saved (Driedger comes back in god mode form and the team finds its scoring mojo back), we should already be looking into GM candidate options. Article back in April:

The Top 9 candidates for the Edmonton Oilers' General Manager job, rated and ranked

 

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

Is Tallon still here? That's a shame.

Thats the only reason I keep checking the boards. Every day that passes and him not being fired, just makes the owners look dumb. Have some f***ing accountability.

 

[zeroG]

Are you saying that DT requires a coach to direct him how to do his job properly?!?! GTFOH.

i think they make a good point, one that i've been thinking about as well.

it's not that he needs a coach to direct him, it's that he's got his friend, a coach who's won 3 cups who he trusts and can work directly with to mold the roster.

i don't think there's a chance in hell ownership will clean house. nor should they.

i agree with the OP that Q didn't really know the extent of the defensive dysfunction here. part of the responsibility lies with tallon to be sure - they're his players and, really, the time to address things was before boughner was hired. we should've made should roster changes and brought in someone who could change the habits of those players who stayed.

i mentioned here that i'd heard on NHL network (think it was weekes, who has good sources i believe) that boughner was shocked at how lousy our fundamentals were. there was too for a new coach without the respect and gravitas (and whatever else you want to add...) to change in short order.

what i think may point to is a key difference between a guy like Q and trotz. one isn't necessarily better than the other but it does appear that trotz is able shake guys out of their bad habits more directly, i.e., he's able to communicate an intuitive version of the Xs and Os he needs from the players. in this theory, Q may depend more on his assistants and as such has to rely on the more basic levers a coach has, such as building up and motivating the players (carrot) and rationing playing time (stick).

all that said, Q has shown he can lead a team to where we want to go. he certainly knows the "style" and types of players that can get it done. i don't think the league's changed that much since his last cup. as such, i still think our best bet is to allow this to play out a couple of more years.

 

[CatscratchFever]

I disagree. Chicago didn't win squat until they sent Tallon packing. I'm all for the same here.

 

[Jefe302]

If the season is cancelled because of Covid19 then we didn’t technically miss the playoffs. So Tallon is safe!

 

[ucanthanzalthetruth]

If, what I think is the most lkkely thing, that they suspend the season and resume it in May and have it run through July, it will be hard to push through huge changes as there will be no time.

 

[KW]

If, what I think is the most lkkely thing, that they suspend the season and resume it in May and have it run through July, it will be hard to push through huge changes as there will be no time.

They could reduce playoffs by making them best out of 5.

 

[Drugs Delaney]

It's been ten years. I think Dale gets the axe but I don't really care if he doesn't.