Talk me off the ledge about Trevor Lawrence

Blitzkrug

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Any Jags fan is certainly aware of this, but for the rest of us, here's an eye opener about how his game has turned around.



Yeah from what i seen it looked like something has definitely "clicked" or so to speak.

T-law looks loads more confident on the pocket, is much faster processing the defense in front of him and his decision making, while he's still prone to make a boneheaded read from time to time has improved tenfold.

Probably makes a world of difference working with a guy who has done good work with young QBs in the past as opposed to a dipshit like our good friend Urb.
 

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Honestly, thank god he has...just for the sport if anything

The quality of QB is already so bad for like half of the league. If the surefire generational QB had just become an average QB at best...woof.
 
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Honestly, thank god he has...just for the sport if anything

The quality of QB is already so bad for like half of the league. If the surefire generational QB had just become an average QB at best...woof.
How many elite QBs are there now? Brees has retired. Same with Big Ben. Eli retired but was not elite for the final 3 seasons easily. Russ Wilson has been terrible in Denver. Brady finally looking his age. Rodgers, does he really have the desire to do the off season work to win?

Now rhe elite QBs are Mahomes, Allen, Burrows, Jackson. Herbert has the talent but hasn’t won enough yet. Hurts is playing well this season.

Everyone else has a tier 2 caliber guy in Cousins, Dak, Carr, Tanny, Jimmy, etc. good when everything is working but not able to carry a team when cluster injuries hit.

So the nfl needs Lawrence to be great.
 

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Hey NY , give the rock to Barkley if you want to win...simple.

How many elite QBs are there now? Brees has retired. Same with Big Ben. Eli retired but was not elite for the final 3 seasons easily. Russ Wilson has been terrible in Denver. Brady finally looking his age. Rodgers, does he really have the desire to do the off season work to win?

Now rhe elite QBs are Mahomes, Allen, Burrows, Jackson. Herbert has the talent but hasn’t won enough yet. Hurts is playing well this season.

Everyone else has a tier 2 caliber guy in Cousins, Dak, Carr, Tanny, Jimmy, etc. good when everything is working but not able to carry a team when cluster injuries hit.

So the nfl needs Lawrence to be great.
Not in Jvillle...If he was in a big market possibly.
 

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How many elite QBs are there now? Brees has retired. Same with Big Ben. Eli retired but was not elite for the final 3 seasons easily. Russ Wilson has been terrible in Denver. Brady finally looking his age. Rodgers, does he really have the desire to do the off season work to win?

Now rhe elite QBs are Mahomes, Allen, Burrows, Jackson. Herbert has the talent but hasn’t won enough yet. Hurts is playing well this season.

Everyone else has a tier 2 caliber guy in Cousins, Dak, Carr, Tanny, Jimmy, etc. good when everything is working but not able to carry a team when cluster injuries hit.

So the nfl needs Lawrence to be great.
Jackson is not an elite QB. Elite athlete who can win you games with his legs, but not elite QB. He is too mediocre a passer for that. He has been badly exposed in so many important games.
 
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Jackson is not an elite QB. Elite athlete who can win you games with his legs, but not elite QB. He is too mediocre a passer for that. He has been badly exposed in so many important games.
Just shows how few elite QBs there are in the nfl if you take Jackson out.

So when these teams at the upcoming draft are deciding on a QB to draft they have be to realistic in what they are getting. You replace your QB if you feel that you are either getting an upgrade like from Alex Smith to Mahomes or you are going to stay at the same level but save cap room. Washington won the same number of games as Minnesota over the time Cousins has played for Minny coming into this season.

So you are really unlikely to secure an elite QB in the draft.
 

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Just shows how few elite QBs there are in the nfl if you take Jackson out.

So when these teams at the upcoming draft are deciding on a QB to draft they have be to realistic in what they are getting. You replace your QB if you feel that you are either getting an upgrade like from Alex Smith to Mahomes or you are going to stay at the same level but save cap room. Washington won the same number of games as Minnesota over the time Cousins has played for Minny coming into this season.

So you are really unlikely to secure an elite QB in the draft.
Elite QBs, yeah, they are very rare.

Mahomes, Allen and Burrow seem to be the list right now.
 
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Paul Brown would have jumped on that. Paul Brown must be rolling in his grave right now thinking of how many young superstars the Bengals have that he would have to reward with a high paycheck next contract. :laugh:
Hey now, it's Mike Brown that's the worthless cheapskate lol. There would be no Bengals without Paul Brown.
 
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I think Herbert might already be elite, he's underrated imo.

I don't think there's a team in the league that relies more on their QB making plays and being superman to win games than him. He's always running for his life behind that O-Line and his defenses and coaching staff seem to do their best to lose games after him doing something crazy to win a game.
 

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Y'all can eat your words.....

Number one in QBR since week 9,

Playing at an elite level.

I was ready to jump after that London game, but man has he turned it around!

For the record I'd take Lawrence over Lamar.

Lamar is trash. He's athletic but will never win.
 
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GKJ

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He actually hasn’t been that good since we all decided he was. He defies all expectations.
 

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