Talk me off the ledge about Trevor Lawrence

[HisIceness]

Whenever I think about Trevor Lawrence, I remember how everyone was glad he didn’t end up on the Jets for the exact reasons he’s underachieved with the Jaguars. I lol’ed then and still do so now.

He’s simply ok right now. Here’s what I’d say: draw a line through last year with how obvious the shit show that was. He may as well been injured. This his rookie season. His current head coach and QB coach presided over Carson Wentz having an MVP-caliber season before winning a Super Bowl with Nick Foles, and they didn’t have a Stefon Diggs.

For me, I wanted him in Duval because I figured he would be their last line of defense for keeping the franchise there. A hyped generational talent at the QB position was exactly what was needed.

As it turns out, Meyer unsurprisingly was not a leader of grown men and stunted his first year. He's looked better since Urban got fired but the team is still not very good.

 

[GKJ]

For me, I wanted him in Duval because I figured he would be their last line of defense for keeping the franchise there. A hyped generational talent at the QB position was exactly what was needed.

As it turns out, Meyer unsurprisingly was not a leader of grown men and stunted his first year. He's looked better since Urban got fired but the team is still not very good.

Your trepidations in terms of the team moving or not are yours to have, I just don’t see how it is connected to Lawrence. When Shad Khan starts eying a new stadium (which ain’t far off but there isn’t much sign he has yet), who is on the team won’t have anything to do with it.

 

[Blackhawkswincup]

Poor game for Lawrence in London today

At this point Lawrence looks a lot worse than Bortles did at this point in his development and not much if at all better then Gabbert

Jag fans should be concerned

 

[Melrose Munch]

not good...

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

The only argument in his favor you can make is that last year was such a trainwreck with a coach who was a complete disaster that this should be viewed as his rookie season.

This guy was hyped like McDavid and Crosby. Fanbases prayed and begged for their team to lose to get him. It's amazing we are here.

 

[No Fun Shogun]

He's got a long way to go to merely being good, much less supposedly generational.

I'm putting him in the bust camp as of this moment.

 

[mouser]

Allen was not a polished passer in year 2. I remember how the BIlls beat Dallas. It was with his legs and the passing was barely even a dimension for him.

Agreed, but Lawrence was expected to enter the league as a more polished passer than Allen, so I’m not sure the two players are a great comparison.

 

[blueandgoldguy]

Closest NHL comparable to him at this point would be Alexandre Daigle.

 

[Spring in Fialta]

The only argument in his favor you can make is that last year was such a trainwreck with a coach who was a complete disaster that this should be viewed as his rookie season.

This guy was hyped like McDavid and Crosby. Fanbases prayed and begged for their team to lose to get him. It's amazing we are here.

Also, while Meyer was a disaster and undoubtedly had an extremely negative effect on Lawrence and the Jaguars, he wasn't the only coach in the building. There are other coaches in there who know what to do and have been in the league for years. 'It's his rookie season because Meyer!' has a little bit of merit but not that much. OTOH, he seems like a good dude and you'd want him to succeed and we can't lay all his problems off on Meyer.

 

[StreetHawk]

Also, while Meyer was a disaster and undoubtedly had an extremely negative effect on Lawrence and the Jaguars, he wasn't the only coach in the building. There are other coaches in there who know what to do and have been in the league for years. 'It's his rookie season because Meyer!' has a little bit of merit but not that much. OTOH, he seems like a good dude and you'd want him to succeed and we can't lay all his problems off on Meyer.

Lawrence is supposed to be as good as Herbert was in his rookie to sophomore season. Came out of a better program and better weapons. But he hasn’t performed as well as Herbert.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

Jets fans were on a ledge missing out on Lawrence, but it doesn’t matter because Wilson has been just as bad. At least Lawrence doesn’t react to his bad plays with “I was bored lol”.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

It feels like he needs a big threat receiver that he can rely on, and it wouldn't be a bad idea for the Jags to build on that OLine.

 

[BobColesNasalCavity]

Can't even wear his jersey in public, I'm too embarrassed.

 

[StreetHawk]

It feels like he needs a big threat receiver that he can rely on, and it wouldn't be a bad idea for the Jags to build on that OLine.

Not sure who else is out there at WR this coming off season. AJ Brown was in division and he went for a mid first. Have to step up like Buffalo did with Diggs.

Who else is in an Adams, Brown, Diggs, Hill situation coming up this off season?

 

[TheAngryHank]

Not sure who else is out there at WR this coming off season. AJ Brown was in division and he went for a mid first. Have to step up like Buffalo did with Diggs.

Who else is in an Adams, Brown, Diggs, Hill situation coming up this off season?

Adams

 

[StreetHawk]

Adams

That would be a dead cap hit of $31.4 mill if they move off him in the off season. Jags first is going to finish in the top 10. Raiders gave around the 20th first and a second for him. Is a top 10 pick worth it for the raiders as well as eating that dead cap?

 

[TheAngryHank]

That would be a dead cap hit of $31.4 mill if they move off him in the off season. Jags first is going to finish in the top 10. Raiders gave around the 20th first and a second for him. Is a top 10 pick worth it for the raiders as well as eating that dead cap?

I was half kidding but i bet he and everyone wants out of there real bad.

 

[Unholy Diver]

I was half kidding but i bet he and everyone wants out of there real bad.

Hard to imagine he wants to leave bad enough to swap from Vegas to Jacksonville

 

[TheAngryHank]

Hard to imagine he wants to leave bad enough to swap from Vegas to Jacksonville

Valid

 

[Goalie_Bob]

Yeah, isn't Vegas his home town, that's why he wanted to play there.

 

[bluesfan94]

Yeah, isn't Vegas his home town, that's why he wanted to play there.

Pretty sure he's from the San Francisco area

 

[Filthy Dangles]

The Jaguars probably would have ruined Tom Brady if he was drafted by them

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Probably his best NFL game today against a quality (but probably fraudulant) opponent.

Will this performance today be the turning point?

 

[No Fun Shogun]

The Jaguars probably would have ruined Tom Brady if he was drafted by them

That's basically my consolation thought process for not being more sad over the Bears not drafting Mahomes.

 

[Troy McClure]

Any Jags fan is certainly aware of this, but for the rest of us, here's an eye opener about how his game has turned around.