No Wallén? I'm note sure you're serious... He's probobly the best offensive talent out there. He's strong on the puck, despite his size. His ability to find the net is very underrated. Can't say too much about Wännström and Rensfeldt, but I doubt Sörensen brings any aspect of the game that Rensfeldt doesn't.
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No Wallén? I'm note sure you're serious... He's probobly the best offensive talent out there. He's strong on the puck, despite his size. His ability to find the net is very underrated. Can't say too much about Wännström and Rensfeldt, but I doubt Sörensen brings any aspect of the game that Rensfeldt doesn't.
joe89
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I have seen many leaving Wallén out of the team. Granted I haven't watched him a lot this fall but he was really good in the small ice tournament in USA this summer, top4 forward there with Josefson, Lander and Paajarvi imo, which would make him second best there out of current ones. So I'm a bit surprised by this too. He's smallish but works really hard and as you said and doesn't shy away from contact.
Brun0
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Cmon it's just hockey, people are too serious.
Teemu Pulkkinen has made 84 points in 43 games during his international career so far. Those are some serious digits that even the great one had a hard time matching.
Just sayin...all cool bro
Yeah, Pulkkinen - the best prospect since Gretzky. Why oh why doesnt the world understand me...
Brun0
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With numbers like those he should have went 1st overall. The great one?
Yea well you can check the your self... By the great one i mean AO ofcourse..
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I dont think that i said that, but I do claim that Pulkkinen>Ironhook... some swede was claiming quite the opposite...
So in Sweden you are not allowed to disagree?
I dont think that i said that, but I do claim that Pulkkinen>Ironhook... some swede was claiming quite the opposite...
So in Sweden you are not allowed to disagree?
Well, how are we supposed to know that you, unlike the rest of the world, have your own "the great one", uh?
You can disagree how much you want. It's just hard to take anything you write serious when having read all previous "golden" contributions on this board.
Now, back to topic.
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AO is 6'2 233 pounds right now, there are 6'4 NHL defensemen that cannot match up with that. If you think Pulkinnen will become close to that size and offensive production you can begin to toss his name around with the 'great ones'
There are reasons he slid in the draft, that's all I'm saying. He may become a great NHLer....but NHL teams determined 3.5 different times they thought the opposite despite the prized offensive production you speak of.
I've updated the scoreboard with the official stats of game 3. So here's the final stats of three internal games at the selection camp.
Forwards
Nordström 2+3
Fasth 2+2
Wännström 2+2
J.Larsson 0+4
Lindberg 3+0
Wallén 1+2
Lander 1+2
Sundström 0+3
Sörensen 1+1
Thorell 0+2
C.Klingberg 0+2
Thörnberg 1+0
Norman 1+0
Friberg 1+0
Järnkrok 1+0
Cehlin 1+0
Rensfeldt 0+1
Rakell 0+1
Everberg 0+1
Zibanejad 0+0
Defensemen
N.Andersson 3+1
Erixon 1+1
Klefbom 0+2
Almqvist 0+2
J.Klingberg 1+0
Bertilsson 0+1
Brodin 0+1
Styrman 0+0
A.Larsson 0+0
Claesson 0+0
Dahlbeck 0+0
Nemeth 0+0
Forwards
Nordström 2+3
Fasth 2+2
Wännström 2+2
J.Larsson 0+4
Lindberg 3+0
Wallén 1+2
Lander 1+2
Sundström 0+3
Sörensen 1+1
Thorell 0+2
C.Klingberg 0+2
Thörnberg 1+0
Norman 1+0
Friberg 1+0
Järnkrok 1+0
Cehlin 1+0
Rensfeldt 0+1
Rakell 0+1
Everberg 0+1
Zibanejad 0+0
Defensemen
N.Andersson 3+1
Erixon 1+1
Klefbom 0+2
Almqvist 0+2
J.Klingberg 1+0
Bertilsson 0+1
Brodin 0+1
Styrman 0+0
A.Larsson 0+0
Claesson 0+0
Dahlbeck 0+0
Nemeth 0+0
The biggest surprise has tobe NORDSTROM's (CHI draftee)offensive numbers from the 3 day set of games ..no points in Game 1 but 2g+3a overthe last 2 days...he was never a big scorer (so far) in Jrs ...Meanwhile I had expected the Blackhawks higher drafted LUDVIG RENSFELDT to put up beter than the 1 assist he got...he's beenat or near the top of the J-20Super Elit South in scoring...
STILL one must consider these inter-squad gams are on big ice--in Buffalo at the WJHC it willbe on the smaller rink..They might need Rensfeldt's big body LW...
STILL if NORDSTROM (acentre) can do this whenhis role islikely a 4th line defensive centre ifhemakes the final cut -then Sweden is going tobe deep at centre at the WJHC..
STILL one must consider these inter-squad gams are on big ice--in Buffalo at the WJHC it willbe on the smaller rink..They might need Rensfeldt's big body LW...
STILL if NORDSTROM (acentre) can do this whenhis role islikely a 4th line defensive centre ifhemakes the final cut -then Sweden is going tobe deep at centre at the WJHC..
Hawksfan> Yeah, good numbers by Nordstrom. I'd say that Nils Anderssons numbers are equally impressive. Andersson is an undrafted defenseman who almost everyone naming their squad are keeping outside the team. Being best scoring dman definately takes him closer to the final squad.
Numbers rarely tells to whole story bro. You're allowed to disagree, but when you're trying to prove someone wrong you'll need better proof than some numbers
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Ah, I see. Danke...
Und nur danke... I see that he hasn't been exactly tearing up the scoring charts in the Elitserien, but I guess that's to be expected from a 19-year-old playing his first season at that level.
I believe the Blues drafted him as more of a two-way guy, a prototypical third-liner, as opposed to a pure scorer, so if that's the case, that role seems to fit him.
They played their last internal game(i think) today...
1st period
1-0 John Norman (Dennis Everberg)
1-1 Sebastian Wännström (Johan Larsson)
1-2 Sebastian Wännström (William Wallén, Adam Almquist)
1-3 Tim Erixon (Jesper Fasth, Johan Larsson)
1-4 Joakim Nordström (Patrik Nemeth, Sebastian Wännström)
2nd period
2-4 Nils Andersson (Johan Sundström, Joakim Nordström)
3-4 Oscar Lindberg (Jonas Brodin, Carl Klingberg)
3rd period
4-4 Oscar Lindberg (Carl Klingerg)
5-4 Patrick Cehlin
5-5 Nils Andersson (Joakim Nordström)
OT
5-6 Calle Järnkrok
1st period
1-0 John Norman (Dennis Everberg)
1-1 Sebastian Wännström (Johan Larsson)
1-2 Sebastian Wännström (William Wallén, Adam Almquist)
1-3 Tim Erixon (Jesper Fasth, Johan Larsson)
1-4 Joakim Nordström (Patrik Nemeth, Sebastian Wännström)
2nd period
2-4 Nils Andersson (Johan Sundström, Joakim Nordström)
3-4 Oscar Lindberg (Jonas Brodin, Carl Klingberg)
3rd period
4-4 Oscar Lindberg (Carl Klingerg)
5-4 Patrick Cehlin
5-5 Nils Andersson (Joakim Nordström)
OT
5-6 Calle Järnkrok
DJB
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Dissapointing that Sorenson did not register a point. I assume he took part of the internal scrimmage?
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Lander for sure. The players will take a vote, then the coaching staff decides. But everyone loves Lander.
That scoresheet is messed up!?
1-0 can't be an assist on when norman breaks a D -> D pass and gets a breakaway.
Johan Larsson scored 1-1 on a shot threw gustavssons arm and straight into net. Not a chance in hell i.e that Nils Andersson scored the 2-4 goal.. Some left D(prob. Styrman thats what the commentators said.) came from the bench and one-timed it straight up the roof, while Larsson was playing other D. and made the pass that an apponent deflected up to the blueline where (Styrman) came and one-timed it.
3-4 Klingberg in front of goal tapping it down in net from a shot from Claesson who got the pass from Lindberg who was by the boards. NOT CORRECT!
1-0 can't be an assist on when norman breaks a D -> D pass and gets a breakaway.
Johan Larsson scored 1-1 on a shot threw gustavssons arm and straight into net. Not a chance in hell i.e that Nils Andersson scored the 2-4 goal.. Some left D(prob. Styrman thats what the commentators said.) came from the bench and one-timed it straight up the roof, while Larsson was playing other D. and made the pass that an apponent deflected up to the blueline where (Styrman) came and one-timed it.
3-4 Klingberg in front of goal tapping it down in net from a shot from Claesson who got the pass from Lindberg who was by the boards. NOT CORRECT!
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Huh, I wonder why Sorensen didn't play? You'd figure they'd want to get a longer look at him more so than pretty much anyone else. I mean, if they don't think he's gonna make it why not give him one last chance over a lock, and I'm pretty sure he's not a lock to make it himself (which would be a reason to sit someone for the last scrimmage). Unless he injured himself during camp...
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Probably deemed no chance to make it, that's what I think, and the logical explanation.
Lander without a doubt. He's been the cap for the 91ers for many years. Someelse getting the C is simply not gonna happen.
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