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So we're clearly going all-in on Tavares. Do we have ANY connections to him? Any Sharks played with him or coached him?
Something like this?One wonders if the tone of the conversation with Kovalchuck didn't drive this to an extent?
"Kovy" said:I will not play hockey for you as long as that Dane is there.
Just to answer, he played with Thornton and Vlasic at the Sochi Olympics.
Also, of note, he played with John Carlson in junior after being traded to London.
There might be nobody in the NHL that elevates the performance and production of his line mates more than Tavares.
- PA Parenteau scored 67 points with Tavares.
- Matt Moulson scored 69 points with Tavares.
- Kyle Okposo had 69 points with Tavares.
None of these 3 players had played 30 NHL games before they joined the NYI. None of them scored more than 45 points in a season after they left the Islanders. Moulson and Parenteau played their last NHL games before the age of 35 and at age 30 right now, I'm not expecting Okposo to buck that trend.
Now, Anders Lee and Josh Bailey are having some serious success with Tavares. Anders Lee just scored 40 goals. Josh Bailey just had 70 points. You've got a bunch of guys who were not NHLers before they played with Tavares, and all of a sudden, they start playing with big Johnny T, and they're all producing like above average first line forwards? And as soon as they leave Tavares, none of them can score 50 points once?
Tavares is an elite franchise superstar Stanley Cup #1C; no questions asked.
Very interesting about his linemates. Long suspected, but data makes it sink in. Plus, he created favourable match-ups for the second line this year, leading to Barzal's impact as a rookie and Eberle's renaissance.Played with Thornton, Couture, Burns, and Vlasic at the World Cup, right?
@Maladroit, who mentioned Tavares’ turning his linemates into superstars. Check the post I made in the main board thread about Tavares.
We all know Trotz is going to WashingtonLook, Trotz is available, dump PDB and grab him, I wanted Trotz before PDB anyway, now is our chance heh.
We all know Trotz is going to Washington
Cut his ties over the weekend as $300k raise after winning Stanley Cup is a slap in the face.
Hmmmm
anything more than 1.2-1.5M for Tierney is a severe overpayment.
Demelo isn't worth more than 700k
Cut his ties over the weekend as $300k raise after winning Stanley Cup is a slap in the face.
Hmmmm
Seattle won't play for at least two more season's. Don't think Trotz wants to remain idle (coaching wise) that long. Besides, Seattle OVG just hired Tippett as senior advisor.
DON'T PANIC
I wish it had been our Melker Karlsson. That would have been a huge break for us.
Yup. His contract is too much for what "production" he brings.
Really hoping he gets moved on Saturday for like a 4th or 5th round pick. We need every cent of cap space we can get if this is gonna work with Tavares.
If I remember correctly, the Sharks were in on Panarin before he signed with Chicago. He’s a right handed shot. I’d be very interested in him.
Aside from that, I had outlined a way for the Sharks to sign both Tavares and and Kovy in the previous thread. It essentially breaks down to this, if the cap is $80+mil...
-Trade Boedker. CHECK
-Trade Karlsson.
-Trade Tierney.
-Buyout Martin.
-Sign Tavares to $10mil per.
-Sign Kovy to $5mil per.
-Sign Hertl to $5mil per.
-Sign Thornton to $1mil per heavy bonus.
-Sign Demelo to $1mil per.
It also leaves the ability to trade Braun, Tierney, and the 21st for a RD upgrade that costs ~$4.5-5mil.
I’m not going to act like this is impossible, but the amount of “ifs” for this to workout are a little past realistic.If I remember correctly, the Sharks were in on Panarin before he signed with Chicago. He’s a right handed shot. I’d be very interested in him.
Aside from that, I had outlined a way for the Sharks to sign both Tavares and and Kovy in the previous thread. It essentially breaks down to this, if the cap is $80+mil...
-Trade Boedker. CHECK
-Trade Karlsson.
-Trade Tierney.
-Buyout Martin.
-Sign Tavares to $10mil per.
-Sign Kovy to $5mil per.
-Sign Hertl to $5mil per.
-Sign Thornton to $1mil per heavy bonus.
-Sign Demelo to $1mil per.
It also leaves the ability to trade Braun, Tierney, and the 21st for a RD upgrade that costs ~$4.5-5mil.
Would he even fetch that much?
I really don't follow the Barracuda. Aren't there a few bottom six forwards that are ready to move up/get a shot?