Stop labeling Vegas players as cast offs or misfits

[Hockeyholic]

Whether they're misfits or Not, the Caps have a much higher chance of getting back to the Finals. Just like the 04 Flames and 06 Oilers, this feels like a one year wonder. They absolutely gotta win it now.

 

[Moon Man]

Whether they're misfits or Not, the Caps have a much higher chance of getting back to the Finals. Just like the 04 Flames and 06 Oilers, this feels like a one year wonder. They absolutely gotta win it now.

I think Vegas will be a top contender for years and years. Plenty of youth on that team. Plenty of players who would choose to play there. For better or worse this is not a one hit wonder in my opinion. I think they’re going to destroy the Caps in 5.

 

[Hockeyholic]

I think Vegas will be a top contender for years and years. Plenty of youth on that team. Plenty of players who would choose to play there. For better or worse this is not a one hit wonder in my opinion. I think they’re going to destroy the Caps in 5.

Just like they've destroyed the Caps thus far?

 

[Skrudland2Lomakin]

The castoff or unwanted label is such a narrative piece, it's not like these were guys that were pick up through waivers, they were plucked from rosters in which only the top of the top were able to be protected.

If you come into my house and steal my TV and offer to give it back for $8,000 and I decline, that doesn't make that TV a cast off or unwanted. The more apt label for these guys would be the "just not good enough to be traded for a top draft pick or protected in the expansion draft" team.

 

[Cletus Marley]

I think Vegas will be a top contender for years and years. Plenty of youth on that team. Plenty of players who would choose to play there. For better or worse this is not a one hit wonder in my opinion. I think they’re going to destroy the Caps in 5.

They are going to need to step it up and get to the destroying part of that pretty soon. I'm no Vegas hater but they are hardly owning the Caps in this series.

 

[Ugene Magic]

I'm just kid....

 

[Rolo]

Just for fun, what if scenario:

Jarnkrok unprotected, instead of Neal

Pysyk unprotected, instead of Marchessault
*Florida likely still gives them Smith since they wish to dump contract, maybe gives a higher pick.

Blues protect Perron, instead of Reaves

Tuch-Karlsson-Smith
Lindberg-Haula-Jarnkrok
Pulkkinen-Eakin-Carpenter
Nosek-Bellemare-Reaves

Schmidt-Pysyk
McNabb-Miller
Theodore-Engelland
Sbisa

Fleury
Subban

 

[Moon Man]

Just like they've destroyed the Caps thus far?

Yes.

 

[Critical13]

Don't tell me what to do OP!

 

[Hockeyholic]

Yes.

We are watching two different series than.

 

[Moon Man]

They are going to need to step it up and get to the destroying part of that pretty soon. I'm no Vegas hater but they are hardly owning the Caps in this series.

I think they’re creaming them. And the Vegas in 5 is just my opinion but I think it’s accurate. There’s just too much skill (especially hand eye, with stick work) and speed on Vegas. Their players are so good. It’s crazy. I don’t think it was a fair expansion (for the 30 other teams) but it has excited a lot of people.

 

[Moon Man]

We are watching two different series than.

Possibly.

 

[Newsworthy]

I think Vegas will be a top contender for years and years. Plenty of youth on that team. Plenty of players who would choose to play there. For better or worse this is not a one hit wonder in my opinion. I think they’re going to destroy the Caps in 5.

Maybe they could become the NHL version of the 1990's Buffalo Bills.

 

[Givememoneyback]

No teams were forced to protect players with "NMC" for some reason.
Yet players with two years or less service didn't have to be protected at all.
So the expansion favored teams with a lot of young talent. Many teams would have rather exposed the bad contracts. So no Vegas didn't get a bunch of cast offs. Also these side deals were ridiculous. IMO the league should not even allowed those to happen.
Players who are cast offs would be guys teams didn't want like NYI Grabovski who isn't even playing with the Knights right now or Reilly Smith because of contract. However the Knights didn't really want Smith either but they got a sweet trade which including March.
Not guys like Schmidt, Marchessault, Tuch, Theodore, or Miller.
True castoff a would be AHL fodder and waiver material. William K also doesn't qualify as he was only expendable because Columbus had to do something.

Vegas picked Marchessault in the expansion draft because he was exposed. Regarding Smith, it’s a good guess Gallant knew what kind of player they were getting for a 4th.

 

[Moon Man]

Maybe they could become the NHL version of the 1990's Buffalo Bills.

Haha maybe. They would have to lose it this year to start things off right

 

[ChanceVegas]

The castoff or unwanted label is such a narrative piece, it's not like these were guys that were pick up through waivers, they were plucked from rosters in which only the top of the top were able to be protected.

If you come into my house and steal my TV and offer to give it back for $8,000 and I decline, that doesn't make that TV a cast off or unwanted. The more apt label for these guys would be the "just not good enough to be traded for a top draft pick or protected in the expansion draft" team.

That would really suck on a rally towel though.

 

[dBoon]

When your GM bends over and gives away top prospect Alex Tuch and speedy center Erik Haula, you are certainly not thinking castoffs or scraps.

You are cursing the league for giving Vegas such favorable conditions, and cursing the cap.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

They were handpicked in a shady draft!

Strong hint of conspiracy theory... or witch hunt.

 

[Sam Spade]

I think Vegas will be a top contender for years and years. Plenty of youth on that team. Plenty of players who would choose to play there. For better or worse this is not a one hit wonder in my opinion. I think they’re going to destroy the Caps in 5.

Vegas Golden Knights - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Knights are gonna have the same problems every team has starting next season, cap going up or not.

 

[Seachd]

They were handpicked in a shady draft!

This is such a steaming load.

That is all.

 

[TheAngryHank]

Nazis and fascist i can handle but Misfits can go to HELL!!

Can i just call them pathetic divers?

 

[Hal 9000]

People who don't want to admit that the Knights were/are castoffs (or misfits) are those people who hate the fact that their team might actually lose to a bunch of misfits.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Only like 4 teams felt any kind of impact to their team (and 1 was self inflicted). The rules are fine.

 

[theVladiator]

Criminally undervalued by their former teams. How can you argue with that when 300 players deemed better are now playing golf?

"Castoffs" and "misfits" are hyperboles of course, but they relay the essence of what happened quite well.

 

[Moon Man]

Vegas Golden Knights - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps

Knights are gonna have the same problems every team has starting next season, cap going up or not.

Loads of cap space to keep the core long term + Brannstrom, Glass, Suzuki coming up the pipes. They're going to be a contender for a very very long time.

Not to mention they've got a bunch of picks in the draft over the next couple of years. They also probably won't lose any players to the next exp team.