ForeverJerseyGirl
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I doubt Shero did Stempniak a favor unless it's to keep Stempniak happy so that he re-signs with us during the off-season. Then it's sort of an "I-scratch-your-back-you-scratch-my-back" kind of thing.
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I doubt Shero did Stempniak a favor unless it's to keep Stempniak happy so that he re-signs with us during the off-season. Then it's sort of an "I-scratch-your-back-you-scratch-my-back" kind of thing.
NJDevs26
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A) If we resign Stemp I don't really care either way in the end
B) I'm just spitballing, I find it hard to believe that a 2 next year from one team is the only 2 offer we got though
That's exactly why I thought of that as a theory tbh.
Emperoreddy
Show Me What You Got!
It crossed my mind it is part of giving us the inside track to resigning him, but that seems a bit far fetched to me...but maybe? He has family and a house up there so it does seem Shero might of tried to make it work for him.
My issue is I'd like to make the playoffs before the year 2020.
We are the worst offensive team in the NHL and that was with Stempniak, for whom we have no in house replacement. Between losing him and our top aging and always injured LW, we are still hurting big time for offense.
Draft picks are nice. I wish we had made a few other "Gelinas-type" trades today. But actual established NHL players aren't bad either, and we don't have enough of them at forward. We have the cap room, and I can't imagine Stempniak costing all that much to re-sign (yeah yeah I know he might come back). In this case I just thought he was more valuable to us than the future picks.
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Stempniak will probably not have another season like he did this year.
He would have been or would still be a nice player to build a REAL 3rd line around. Once we also maybe got some better 3rd line players than we already have.
He might score 18 points in 82 games playing with any of Josefson, Kalinin and Kennedy.
He would have been or would still be a nice player to build a REAL 3rd line around. Once we also maybe got some better 3rd line players than we already have.
He might score 18 points in 82 games playing with any of Josefson, Kalinin and Kennedy.
Loved having stempniak here but realistically the guy is 33 already. His career high is 52 points in 2006. at best he usually floats around 30-40 points a year. His career shooting percentage is .109 hes shooting .133 this year. His value will never be higher than it was today so im all ok for this trade
Too bad we weren't able to pry Frank Vatrano out of Boston.
Hope Stemp does well in Boston. Good trade day for them, because after everything they did they held on to Vatrano in the AHL. He's the real deal - a big strong fast forward - has looked great in his NHL games for the big club already and is tearing up the minors.
The Bruins needed defense badly and it's too bad that with our overstocked back line, we were not able to pry Vatrano out of them. But it would have taken Greene or Larsen to do it, because the only way the Bruins would have moved him (if he was not indeed untouchable given that they won't resign Erickson and also Vatrano is a local Mass boy) was for someone who could shore them up now for a deep run in the playoffs. They would not have been interested in an un battle tested youngster, even Severson.
In my head I know this was a sound move for us. But in my heart it sure doesn't feel that way. Stempniak was a big part of what I liked about this club this year.
Hope Stemp does well in Boston. Good trade day for them, because after everything they did they held on to Vatrano in the AHL. He's the real deal - a big strong fast forward - has looked great in his NHL games for the big club already and is tearing up the minors.
The Bruins needed defense badly and it's too bad that with our overstocked back line, we were not able to pry Vatrano out of them. But it would have taken Greene or Larsen to do it, because the only way the Bruins would have moved him (if he was not indeed untouchable given that they won't resign Erickson and also Vatrano is a local Mass boy) was for someone who could shore them up now for a deep run in the playoffs. They would not have been interested in an un battle tested youngster, even Severson.
In my head I know this was a sound move for us. But in my heart it sure doesn't feel that way. Stempniak was a big part of what I liked about this club this year.
Stephen Gionta
Boston College > Boston University
Stempniak is a perfect 3rd line RW for this team next season. Hopefully with Zajac as his center.
As I was told in sex education class, hope is not a method. There is zero chance of the scenario you'd like to see. We'd need like 4 new top 6 players for that to happen.
tr83
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What value does he have if the team misses the playoffs and he walks at the end of the season?
Nobody here will say you can compete without established NHL players. But Stempniak was worth more as a trade asset than he was playing on a team that might miss the playoffs.
Shero bought low and sold high. No problem there.
None Shall Pass
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I always heard that if repeat "NO BABY NO BABY NO BABY" as the end happens that you're good.---
Free assets are a good thing. A 2nd and 4th for a guy we got dirt cheap is a positive thing, and let's be honest, he's having a career year. Solid move Mr. Shero.
Keeping Stempniak would have been exactly the kind of move Lou would have pulled that always drove me nuts. Sometimes you've got to look at the bigger picture.
As far as the pick being a 2017 pick instead of this year, I actually think that's a more valuable pick. This year's draft is very weak on depth, and if Boston wins a round or two, that pick could have ended up being late 2nd. Our scouts probably already have a good idea of what 2017 is looking like.
The strength of a draft can be a pretty big deal. If you look at the 2nd round for 2009, 13 players taken are still NHL assets - IIRC 12 played more than 100 games. Look at 2007 and the number of players that became anything at all drops to 5.
As far as the pick being a 2017 pick instead of this year, I actually think that's a more valuable pick. This year's draft is very weak on depth, and if Boston wins a round or two, that pick could have ended up being late 2nd. Our scouts probably already have a good idea of what 2017 is looking like.
The strength of a draft can be a pretty big deal. If you look at the 2nd round for 2009, 13 players taken are still NHL assets - IIRC 12 played more than 100 games. Look at 2007 and the number of players that became anything at all drops to 5.
Zippy316
aka Zippo
It will also give us some flexibility to make some trades have a few extra picks. I don't think the Palmieri deal happens if we don't have an extra second round pick and third round pick. Seems like Shero has been in on a lot of young promising players like Pirri, Yakupov, Drouin, and Eberle. More picks will only help him acquire those guys.
True. As I and others have said elsewhere, Shero should really target Namestnikov. Who knows, maybe that pick by itself would land him?
Zippy316
aka Zippo
I would look more towards Killorn.
I wouldn't be upset with Namestnikov, but my first priority would be trying to get Killorn. He's a big, physical, and dominant winger which I think could be a nice compliment to some of the guys we have. My only problem with him is he's yet another LW and doesn't really play center too much.
Tampa has a few nice pieces we could use.
Also Killorn will cost more in trade. Between that and him being a Wing, I'd rather focus on Namestnikov. I think Yzerman would ask quite a bit for Killorn.
When Zajac becomes our third line center, this team will be a contender every year.
Emperoreddy
Show Me What You Got!
Under the heading of "thought I died and went to heaven," Stempniak was playing on a line with Patrice Bergeron and Brad Marchand last night.
Devils Army
Rebuild Over.
Stempniak with OT winner and assist tonight
6 or 7 pts in 3 games
What was all that talk here on the form that he would not walk onto a team and not work in the lineup?
Sure he will cool off but wow were you guys wrong
Sweeny did good here!
Ladd has 5 pts on 5 games, Stemp had double the output. A first probably was not out of the question if he keeps up at half this pace!
HF boards might have been wrong this time huh?
6 or 7 pts in 3 games
What was all that talk here on the form that he would not walk onto a team and not work in the lineup?
Sure he will cool off but wow were you guys wrong
Sweeny did good here!
Ladd has 5 pts on 5 games, Stemp had double the output. A first probably was not out of the question if he keeps up at half this pace!
HF boards might have been wrong this time huh?
Cheddabombs
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A first was definitely out of the question and comparing him to Ladd seems silly to me. I understand he was having a great season but for a journeyman like Stempniak has been there really isn't that high of a price tag on those types of players.
Shero did fine with this trade, stop nitpicking it to all hell.
kiwidevil
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I'll say, we should've just held onto him until no one offered us a 1st round pick.
That's some good asset management.
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