The thing is, I don’t want to see any trades made(except, maybe, to address injuries) until we have a new coach. There is no point.
Carlyle needs to go. Get a new coach in, and get a new system implemented. The sooner the better. Give the players a chance to adjust and come to terms with the change. Get a nice look at how everyone is performing under these new circumstances.
Then cut the fat away.
Any other approach is just trying to deflect from the real issue, and should cost Murray his job.
If you are rebuilding your number one goal is finding our next 1c. If you are retooling you maybe feel we can win a cup with Getzlaf leading us. I see our window with Getzlaf shrinking really fast so I would prefer more of a rebuild. The Getzlaf Kesler Perry contracts are going to get worse and worse until they are gone. I don't see us winning anything until those are off the books so might as well rebuild and hope to be well positioned when those come off.While I agree things will not get appreciably better without a new coach, disagree about trades. The roster still needs an overhaul to play a different style (even if RC can't coach that new style). And the truth is any new coach will have a hard time implementing a new system mid-season with lots of injuries.
We know RC won't be back next year, so its just a question of when to pull the trigger. If there's a coach you really want (like Quenneville) who is interested (I doubt Quenneville is or that the ducks would pay him enough $$), then pull the trigger. What are the other options right now? Eakins (which I would be ok with)? Otherwise, wait.
Bottom line for me is the ducks should tear it down for a retool (not a fire sale). Trade Silf, Cogs, and anything else they can use to acquire a good prospect or first or second round pick. Play the younger guys and tank a bit for a higher pick. Consider trading young assets for other young assets.
Making the playoffs and losing int the first round should not be the goal for the front office. And that is the ceiling for this team.
I think Eakins as an interim coach seems ideal, but I also see it as a bit problematic. You're taking a guy that is obviously valued by the organization, and offering him a promotion that comes with a pretty hefty ultimatum. He needs to prove himself on this sinking ship enough to steer the team away from going after other well-known coaches this summer. And if the team went that route, where would that leave him? I have a hard time thinking they'd put him back in his San Diego role, most likely he's gone from the organization or offered Asst. Coach or something along those lines. Doesn't seem ideal for him or the organization.
I'm beginning to think that with so many coaches getting fired, and on the hot seat this season, that Murray has a specific coach in mind that he's caught wind is on the way out of his current job. And he'll grind it out until that guy's available. Eakins may be the fallback that will always be there, so there's no real incentive to rush that move until all other prospective candidates are off the table.
Agreed, I'm reaching a bit on the coach-to-be-fired thing, but I'm really struggling to find a justifiable angle for Murray seemingly sitting on his hands.You might be right about that, but it’s a pretty dangerous train of thought. What if the coach doesn’t get fired? Then you were grinding it out and wasting time for nothing.
I do agree with you on Eakins in an interim role. That’s risky, in a different way. I’m just not convinced we shouldn’t do it anyway.
Not full rebuild. The only way to fully rebuild is to trade Gibson and force Getzlaf out somehow.Anaheim won’t rebuild. We should put that thought out of our head.
Not full rebuild. The only way to fully rebuild is to trade Gibson and force Getzlaf out somehow.
What I can see happening is a 3 year "retool" until Perry/Kesler are gone and we can spend more money. But we will try to be competitive in that time frame still
Agreed, I'm reaching a bit on the coach-to-be-fired thing, but I'm really struggling to find a justifiable angle for Murray seemingly sitting on his hands.
Heh you called Ritchie a top 6 winger.
Beleskey played with Kesler and Silfverberg at his peak effectiveness. Penner was always fairly solid.The only way Ritchie is a top 6 winger is if getzlaf is his center.... And he made beleskey and maroon and drug addict Penner top 6 wingers
Rakell silf kase aberg... looks like ritchie aint top 6. Comtois was better too, and perry.Heh, you believe we have top talent that keeps Ritchie not a top 6 winger on our club.
I don't get some Duck fans. Are the Ducks are really good team or are we a bad team? I think we're a bad team and lacking talent due to a multitude of reasons. Our record kinda reflects that. We really only have one top-6 forward - Getzlaf. That's it. Everyone else is middling and interchangeable. I'm hoping Kase gets into a groove again so he can be a second top-6 forward for us. LoL
He went from on our top line to out of the league in the matter of daysBeleskey played with Kesler and Silfverberg at his peak effectiveness. Penner was always fairly solid.
He went from on our top line to out of the league in the matter of days
I am talking about his last season when Getzlaf made him look serviceable which he does with anyone then he was out of the league that is why i said "drug addict" Penner.Except for the 2 months he was with Washington...
And you're forgetting that Penner was a 30 goal, 60 point scorer in Edmonton with no offensive support. Talent was never an issue with him.
Rakell and Silf are top 6 wingers. Honestly I have no idea what your definition of top 6 is if you think they aren’tHeh, you believe we have top talent that keeps Ritchie not a top 6 winger on our club.
I don't get some Duck fans. Are the Ducks are really good team or are we a bad team? I think we're a bad team and lacking talent due to a multitude of reasons. Our record kinda reflects that. We really only have one top-6 forward - Getzlaf. That's it. Everyone else is middling and interchangeable. I'm hoping Kase gets into a groove again so he can be a second top-6 forward for us. LoL
I am talking about his last season when Getzlaf made him look serviceable which he does with anyone then he was out of the league that is why i said "drug addict" Penner.
Not going to get anywhere with facts. You need narrative.Except he was talented enough to produce on that line despite many guys not being able to and he wasn’t out of the league within days, he played out the year for the caps...