Management State of the Bruins -Sweeney 5/18/22, Neely 5/19/22

[TCB]

Sweeney been resigned yet ?

 

[Absurdity]

Sweeney been resigned yet ?

Contract talks still ongoing, they are negotiating on the length of his NMC.

 

[GordonHowe]

They pulled the same bullshit with Claude Julien and now they'e pulling it with Bruce Cassidy. Now I have my issues with Butch and want him replaced but this is just so wrong.

I am at the point where I cannot abide either of them. Shame on them.

 

[JerseyBruin]

They aren’t suddenly going to improve by downgrading from Bergeron.

If they replace him with one the UFA C’s Boston will have one of the worst C groups in the East and the roster can’t deal with a single major injury



They were a WC team, is that the set of expectations today?

There are 3 clearly better teams in the Atlantic and 4 rebuilding teams, Detroit& Buffalo will start to make a push soon, yes even I have to admit Buffalo will soon end their misery with Dahlin& Power on the blueline& Columbus will start to make a push soon.

Bergeron’s been the heart and soul of this team and Boston won’t have the one advantge they’ve had, the best top line in the league.

They’ve been as one line team as it gets and now that line is looking to get destoyed.

You keep repeating they were a WC team. Go back through the point totals of all teams to make the playoffs in this current format. Without looking I'd argue at least 80% of the time 107 pts qualified as a top 3 seed in division. Yes there are 3 good teams at the top but as we all know that can change from season to season especially with injuries and a salary cap.

Again would Bergeron be missed , 100% without a doubt. But this team will not be a lottery team and still would have a decent shot at qualifying even w/o him. Even in today's NHL 8.75M is a lot of coin to find a replacement .

 

[TCB]

Contract talks still ongoing, they are negotiating on the length of his NMC.

Well on the bright side Neely did say Hopefully they will work something out.
So from my point of view that's mean there's a chance, that hopefully they don't

 

[BB88]

You keep repeating they were a WC team. Go back through the point totals of all teams to make the playoffs in this current format. Without looking I'd argue at least 80% of the time 107 pts qualified as a top 3 seed in division. Yes there are 3 good teams at the top but as we all know that can change from season to season especially with injuries and a salary cap.

Again would Bergeron be missed , 100% without a doubt. But this team will not be a lottery team and still would have a decent shot at qualifying even w/o him. Even in today's NHL 8.75M is a lot of coin to find a replacement .

What does it matter?

Did this division have 3 better teams?

Yes it did, so why should I care if this team could have competed against x teams years ago?
This year Atlantic had 4 rebuilding teams and made multiple teams have career years because of it.

& no, none of those 3 teams are expected to drop anytime soon.

Florida has Lundell& Knight as their top rookies, those two are only going to get better.

Matthews, Marner are just starting to hit their prime, Toronto isn’t going away anytime soon.

Tampa will have their core together and still in their prime.
So at best you are starting as 4th best team in the Atlantic with basically very little room for improvement.

They won’t have that amount of money available without serious moves and this team has lived by the top line.
So they’d lose the advantage of having the best offensive line in the league and the best match up C in the league

 

[bruinmann77]

If DS and Cassidy are let go who get hired first?

 

[BB88]

If DS and Cassidy are let go who get hired first?

Cassidy.

He’d have teams calling him straight away

 

[MattFromFranklin]

If DS and Cassidy are let go who get hired first?

Cassidy and it's not even close. I'm sure teams will be lining up to hire a guy who blew 3 picks in the top half of a generational 1st round and didn't maximize the Bergeron/Marchand/Krejci window.

 

[rocketdan9]

If DS and Cassidy are let go who get hired first?

Neither

Bottom of barrel teams wont trust Cassidy to develop the young players

Good teams may also bypass as Cassidy doesnt have the best playoff record (except one season/lucky path)

 

[bruinmann77]

the bruins are in trouble and they don't have any assets and prospects.

 

[rocketdan9]

Grading Sweeney's tenure as Bruins GM with new contract on the horizon

The Bruins plan to sign general manager Don Sweeney to a contract extension. Is it the right move? Here’s a breakdown of his tenure.

www.nbcsports.com

Draft - D
FA - C+
Trades - A-

Trades A-? Not sure sbout that. I say B- at best. Missed opportunities...

 

[bruinmann77]

Ds gets B or B+ For adding College Fa. But if he gets like a 3 year deal it not going to be good

 

[Gordoff]

You keep repeating they were a WC team. Go back through the point totals of all teams to make the playoffs in this current format. Without looking I'd argue at least 80% of the time 107 pts qualified as a top 3 seed in division. Yes there are 3 good teams at the top but as we all know that can change from season to season especially with injuries and a salary cap.

Again would Bergeron be missed , 100% without a doubt. But this team will not be a lottery team and still would have a decent shot at qualifying even w/o him. Even in today's NHL 8.75M is a lot of coin to find a replacement .

Very good I feel better now, name one.

 

[Gordoff]

What does it matter?

Did this division have 3 better teams?

Yes it did, so why should I care if this team could have competed against x teams years ago?
This year Atlantic had 4 rebuilding teams and made multiple teams have career years because of it.

& no, none of those 3 teams are expected to drop anytime soon.

Florida has Lundell& Knight as their top rookies, those two are only going to get better.

Matthews, Marner are just starting to hit their prime, Toronto isn’t going away anytime soon.

Tampa will have their core together and still in their prime.
So at best you are starting as 4th best team in the Atlantic with basically very little room for improvement.

They won’t have that amount of money available without serious moves and this team has lived by the top line.
So they’d lose the advantage of having the best offensive line in the league and the best match up C in the league

I think that they can trade away 70% of the team (ya know, the dead weight) and have around $57 million to spend. There you go, problem solved!

In all actuality, he's going to have a hard time getting rid of the plugs to fill the two BIG holes if Bergeron leaves since he never actually filled the #2 Center position. We've got a lot of repetition, such as 2# three centers as Haula came down to Earth in the playoffs. The Bruins need a re-set, not a tank and because of a half dozen guys IMO they won't tank but if Bergy leaves, they'll have a hard time not being a lottery team IMO.

Grading Sweeney's tenure as Bruins GM with new contract on the horizon

The Bruins plan to sign general manager Don Sweeney to a contract extension. Is it the right move? Here’s a breakdown of his tenure.

www.nbcsports.com

Draft - D
FA - C+
Trades - A-

Trades A-? Not sure sbout that. I say B- at best. Missed opportunities...

It just shows you how much the Boston sports media knows about the Bruins/NHL. If two swordfish jump into your boat without being hooked, should you be considered a master fisherman? Those fish are named Hall, and Lindholm.

I give him a D- for his overall drafts
FA- F
Trades C

 

[Lordstanley]

I think that they can trade away 70% of the team (ya know, the dead weight) and have around $57 million to spend. There you go, problem solved!
Donny's about to drop the hammer lol. So far he's dropped it on his foot but never seems to stop dropping it.
In all actuality, he's going to have a hard time getting rid of the plugs to fill the two BIG holes if Bergeron leaves since he never actually filled the #2 Center position. We've got a lot of repetition, such as 2# three centers as Haula came down to Earth in the playoffs. The Bruins need a re-set, not a tank and because of a half dozen guys IMO they won't tank but if Bergy leaves, they'll have a hard time not being a lottery team IMO.


Just goes to show you how much the Boston sports media knows about the Bruins/NHL.

Boston Media are the worst in the Country....when it comes to a sport with a stick and a puck ..lol

 

[bp14]

I think that they can trade away 70% of the team (ya know, the dead weight) and have around $57 million to spend. There you go, problem solved!

In all actuality, he's going to have a hard time getting rid of the plugs to fill the two BIG holes if Bergeron leaves since he never actually filled the #2 Center position. We've got a lot of repetition, such as 2# three centers as Haula came down to Earth in the playoffs. The Bruins need a re-set, not a tank and because of a half dozen guys IMO they won't tank but if Bergy leaves, they'll have a hard time not being a lottery team IMO.


It just shows you how much the Boston sports media knows about the Bruins/NHL. If two swordfish jump into your boat without being hooked, should you be considered a master fisherman? Those fish are named Hall, and Lindholm.

I give him a D- for his overall drafts
FA- F
Trades C

A C+ for free agents is extremely generous. I’d make that a C-.

 

[Therick67]

Sweeney been resigned yet ?

He want's a 25 cent raise and JJ won't budge...

 

[analyser]

He want's a 25 cent raise and JJ won't budge...

He should take what he can get, teams are not going to be lining up to give him a big bundle of cash.

Hopefully he moves on so they can try and right the ship and get a set plan in place so they are not always trying to bandage things come TDL.

 

[JerseyBruin]

Very good I feel better now, name one.

Although not free agents , my first call would be to Vegas who are cap strapped with Eichel, looking to see what can be worked out for Karlson or Marchessault.

For pure UFA's I'd look at Trocheck, Kadri, Strome and Copp

 

[JerseyBruin]

A C+ for free agents is extremely generous. I’d make that a C-.

While I'm not one of Sweeney's biggest fans as GM , many here are overlooking the fact that he was able to sign our bigger stars to team friendly LTC's which has allowed the team to stay competitive. What he's done with those cap savings is certainly up for debate though.

 

[The don godfather]

While I'm not one of Sweeney's biggest fans as GM , many here are overlooking the fact that he was able to sign our bigger stars to team friendly LTC's which has allowed the team to stay competitive. What he's done with those cap savings is certainly up for debate though.

Yes and set the core of carlo jake McAvoy sway and lindholm. That's some heavy artillery.

 

[Baddkarma]

He want's a 25 cent raise and JJ won't budge...

 

[BruinsJoe]

Sweeney must not come back he destroyed all the chances of this team to remain competitive in the last off season by squandering 30 million for several players of bad quality instead of investing this money wisely for players of quality, He went for quantity instead of quality and bet on young players to fill the holes in the bottom of the lineup. Now, the team is in a bad financial position with the salary cap and the movements required to correct the situation are too important to correct the composition of the team for the better.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Sweeney must not come back he destroyed all the chances of this team to remain competitive in the last off season by squandering 30 million for several players of bad quality instead of investing this money wisely for players of quality, He went for quantity instead of quality and bet on young players to fill the holes in the bottom of the lineup. Now, the team is in a bad financial position with the salary cap and the movements required to correct the situation are too important to correct the composition of the team for the better.

30 million?

How do you figure that?