#StastnyWatch - Summer of 2014 - Part II

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AvsRobin

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How kind of Stastny and his agent to give the Avs "first refusal."

So, after he collects all the crazy offers, he takes the highest one to the Avs and says "match it?" Or "come close?" We are privileged.

I hope the Avs dont go higher than 6.0M tbh. That contract is gonna hurt down the line for anyone who signs it if it has 6-7 years on it.
 

Avsboy

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If there's silence, I would say it means that talks have concluded. It's not a sure thing but I'd imagine talks are over by now anyway. Either Stastny is thinking hard about an offer by the Avs or is going to test the market (and then sign somewhere else). I think it's the latter because we're running out of time, and there's rumors of Stastny not wanting to take a paycut.
 

TheFactor

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The silence could mean that something is close and they don't want to say. Regardless, I'm indifferent about stastny signing or decking to go elsewhere. Mackinnon needs to take over a center spot eventually and after probably 4 years I think we'll want stastny gone.
 

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If there's silence, I would say it means that talks have concluded. It's not a sure thing but I'd imagine talks are over by now anyway. Either Stastny is thinking hard about an offer by the Avs or is going to test the market (and then sign somewhere else). I think it's the latter because we're running out of time already.

The silence is in refernence to both the Avs and Keator not commenting on the status of the talks. Nothing more, nothing less.
 

LazRNN

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The silence is in refernence to both the Avs and Keator not commenting on the status of the talks. Nothing more, nothing less.

To go one step further... not commenting on the status of the talks to Adrian Friggin' Dater! I mean, this is an Earth rattling development folks!
 

Avsboy

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To go one step further... not commenting on the status of the talks to Adrian Friggin' Dater! I mean, this is an Earth rattling development folks!

In this case it's worth noting. Keator has been open to Dater, now nothing. Talks are clearly done.
 

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How kind of Stastny and his agent to give the Avs "first refusal."

So, after he collects all the crazy offers, he takes the highest one to the Avs and says "match it?" Or "come close?" We are privileged.

I don't think that's how it works. Avs would have the right to match the one he would sign if he doesn't sign with Avs, not the highest bid.

I'm not sure the deal between Avs and Stastny is anything more than the agent promising to check in with Avs and see if something can be worked out in the end without any binding promises of anything.

We'll see. There's something odd about the whole thing. I'm not sure Avs want Stastny back and I'm not sure Stastny wants to go back but for some reason both sides act as if there isn't any coming divorce.
 

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In this case it's worth noting. Keator has been open to Dater, now nothing. Talks are clearly done.

Wouldn't Keator want to signal they are done so other teams can ratchet up their bids?

Neither commenting means nothing in any direction.
 

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If Stastny isn't coming back the Avs need to manage the message. They can't stay silent and just let him go. He isn't just all of a sudden going to hit the market on Tueday, something will be said.

I seriously think the press conference for Bleackley has something to do with it. We won't hear anything either way until its over. If he's signed it will be announced tomorrow afternoon like how McGinn's was announced. If not then I think that's when leaks of how things broke down will come out.
 

The Mars Volchenkov

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If Stastny isn't coming back the Avs need to manage the message. They can't stay silent and just let him go. He isn't just all of a sudden going to hit the market on Tueday, something will be said.
Why not? They've already said Stastny wants to see what offers are out there. He probably will just hit the market, nothing really needs to be said.

The Avs aren't announcing a signing during Bleackley's presser. That would be pretty disrespectful to the young guy, completely overshadowing him.
 
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hughdreamz

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For talking about being very open last year, they are church mice this year. Everything were saying is based upon Dater's might be trolling, might be telling the truth tweets.
 

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How kind of Stastny and his agent to give the Avs "first refusal."

So, after he collects all the crazy offers, he takes the highest one to the Avs and says "match it?" Or "come close?" We are privileged.

It's hardly any better than what Ryan O'Reilly is doing to the club either.

We may very well end up losing 2 first line players in the span of 2 years. Rather than be stacked and built for cup contention with the addition of a first pairing defender, we're deflated some, waiting for our players to develop and hoping to be contenders in 3-4 years.

It's a shame we couldn't just end it now and get both wrapped up for long term 6.25mil deals. 250k on top of our 6mil cap structure won't hurt the team going forward, the next big signings are EJ and MacK in 2 years time when the cap will have risen. 6.25 and 6mil won't mean any difference in 3-5 years time. We all saw what Stastny's contract ended up being in the end. 6.6mil was top end money at the time, not many players were making more than Staz. Now a ton are.
 

hughdreamz

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Sakic has been quoted by Lebrun almost every day or every other day with contract updates. He's not going to come out and tell everyone their contract offer.

Most of those quotes gave us nothing though. My point is that I'm an impatient child who needs answers right away and can't stand Daters BS
 

tigervixxxen

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They've been open about their plan and opinions but every single signing there was absolutely nothing said until it happened. Duchene's was known it was coming but the other 7 contracts that have happened since not one whisper (except the bagboy).
 

PeterTheGreat

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How kind of Stastny and his agent to give the Avs "first refusal."

So, after he collects all the crazy offers, he takes the highest one to the Avs and says "match it?" Or "come close?" We are privileged.

Almost like signing a crazy offersheet and saying to the Avs match it or im gone.
 

AslanRH

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Not taking your bait. Nice efforts, though.

How is it different though? Especially considering Stastny has that right as a UFA just as ROR had the right to hold out as an RFA.

I value your posts and think you got treated pretty harshly with the last ROR deal, but what you posted is much the same as what was objectionable before.
 
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