Movies: Star Wars VIII The Last Jedi, for those who have seen it! (SPOILERS) | Part II

[Osprey]

How did that guy even recognize them

I'm watching the scene and he explains to the guards, "I told those two. I said, 'This is a public beach. You can't park that shuttle here', but they just lit off towards the casino." Because of that, it makes sense to me that he recognizes them, especially since they're still wearing their flight outfits amidst a crowd of well-dressed people.

It does, however, make it an even dumber decision on their part, since they received a warning and might've guessed that he might rat on them. They shrugged it off, though, despite Rose telling Finn literally 20 seconds earlier that Canto Bight is "a terrible place filled with the worst people in the galaxy" (maybe, but at least they respect public beaches, unlike some people). You'd think that they'd be a little more careful to not break laws and stand out in such a dangerous location.

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

I'm watching the scene and he explains to the guards, "I told those two. I said, 'This is a public beach. You can't park that shuttle here', but they just lit off towards the casino." Because of that, it makes sense to me that he recognizes them, especially since they're still wearing their flight outfits amidst a crowd of well-dressed people.

It does, however, make it an even dumber decision on their part, since they received a warning and might've guessed that he might rat on them. They shrugged it off, though, despite Rose telling Finn literally 20 seconds earlier that Canto Bight is "a terrible place filled with the worst people in the galaxy" (maybe, but at least they respect public beaches, unlike some people). You'd think that they'd be a little more careful to not break laws and stand out in such a dangerous location.

ah ok, all I remember is them over looking the beach with the ship on it, didnt remember any dialogue

 

[Tawnos]

Okay, but that doesn't mean they were good explanations.

Sorry, but it's hard to buy how Luke would run head first through a brick wall to save his Sith Lord father after 20 years of evil, then think about killing his confused teenage nephew in his sleep when he hadn't done anything evil up to that point.

At some point, it had to occur to Luke that the entire galaxy would have been better off if his father had lived to become Darth Vader.

 

[Osprey]

At some point, it had to occur to Luke that the entire galaxy would have been better off if his father had lived to become Darth Vader.

It might've occurred to him, but I don't think that it's sufficient to alter his principles and trump the impression left by his father's last words to him: "You were right about me. Tell your sister... you were right." It's logical to imagine that he thought about those last words a lot over the last 30 years (and a lot more than he thought about Vader's crimes) and had it occur to him that, if only he had known his father earlier, he might've been able to turn him from the Dark Side earlier. When presented with another chance to sway a relative from the Dark Side, this time before he even joins it, which thought do we think would win out with the Luke that we know: the one that sees the evil in him and feels that hope for him is lost... or the one that sees the good in him and isn't willing to give up on him?

 

[Cole Caulifield]

That isn't what I was even talking about and it has been explained countless times why that is believable for Luke to have done that.

Not a single time anywhere close to satisfactorily though.

 

[Emperoreddy]

There is a bit of a trend of teacher’s failing their students, so it sort of works on that level too.

Though to be fair, it isn’t intentional because we aren’t supposed to believe Obi-wan (or Qui-Gon for that matter) screwed the pooch with Anakin. That was just bad/poorly thought out writing.

 

[Shockmaster]

There is a bit of a trend of teacher’s failing their students, so it sort of works on that level too.

Though to be fair, it isn’t intentional because we aren’t supposed to believe Obi-wan (or Qui-Gon for that matter) screwed the pooch with Anakin. That was just bad/poorly thought out writing.

Failing the student is one thing. Seriously thinking of killing the student in his sleep before he did anything wrong was just completely out of character for Luke.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

Not a single time anywhere close to satisfactorily though.

At this point I really don't care if people don't find those explanations satisfactory. It's been months and been beaten to death.

 

[Baby Punisher]

Doing the bolded basically removes Rose from the movie (not that I have a problem with that).

Yea, I don't either, what should have been a bit part got overblown into a major part of the film hat just doesn't work.

 

[Tawnos]

There is a bit of a trend of teacher’s failing their students, so it sort of works on that level too.

Though to be fair, it isn’t intentional because we aren’t supposed to believe Obi-wan (or Qui-Gon for that matter) screwed the pooch with Anakin. That was just bad/poorly thought out writing.

I think we are meant to believe Obi-wan screwed the pooch with Anakin. At one point, in RotS, Obi-wan even says "I have failed you"

 

[Pilky01]

Failing the student is one thing. Seriously thinking of killing the student in his sleep before he did anything wrong was just completely out of character for Luke.

lol

It isn’t that the scene was out of character for Luke. It’s that murdering a child in their sleep is out of character for anybody who isn’t a psychotically dangerous and violent sociopath.

 

[Shockmaster]

At this point I really don't care if people don't find those explanations satisfactory. It's been months and been beaten to death.

So if somebody says multiple times that the sky is green, everybody has to accept that?

 

[ArGarBarGar]

So if somebody says multiple times that the sky is green, everybody has to accept that?

Are you seriously comparing interpretations of a character in a piece of fiction with an objective observation like the color of the sky?

The characterization has been explained. You don't accept it. I don't care to get into that argument for the 100th time. There shouldn't be anything wrong with that.

 

[x Tame Impala]

lol

It isn’t that the scene was out of character for Luke. It’s that murdering a child in their sleep is out of character for anybody who isn’t a psychotically dangerous and violent sociopath.

Blah blah blah...subverting expectations...blah blah blah

 

[Shockmaster]

Are you seriously comparing interpretations of a character in a piece of fiction with an objective observation like the color of the sky?

The characterization has been explained. You don't accept it. I don't care to get into that argument for the 100th time. There shouldn't be anything wrong with that.

The point is that because an attempt is made to explain something multiple times, that does not mean it has to be or should be accepted by everyone.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

The point is that because an attempt is made to explain something multiple times, that does not mean it has to be or should be accepted by everyone.

I said nothing to the contrary...

 

[Tawnos]

The point is that because an attempt is made to explain something multiple times, that does not mean it has to be or should be accepted by everyone.

When it comes to subjective opinions, yes... it should be accepted as you understanding where others come from. Agreeing with it is a totally different issue.