Online Series: Star Wars: The Mandalorian (Part 2)

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HanSolo

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It's crazy to me that people give a flying f*** what celebrities say on social media. But, here we are.
I mean. Kinda the point. I tend to agree that the opinions of celebrities have way too much value. But that's not a new phenomenon. Holding them accountable for being neglectful with their influence and potentially harming the reputation of their employers is more common now.
 

ProstheticConscience

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It's crazy to me that people give a flying f*** what celebrities say on social media. But, here we are.

Yes, I also believe this because I too have spent the last five years in a cave with no access to the outside world and no way to know of the impact social media has had on the world and American society in particular.
 

Osprey

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Also the only people who seem "outraged" at the moment are those who feel she was unjustly fired.

If you're alluding to me, I'm not outraged that she was fired. I don't really care. I don't particularly like her character or her as a person. I'm just debating what seems like an overreaction to what she said.
 

beowulf

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Not crying for her being dumped. It's not like she is a first time offender at offending people with dumb posts.
 
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beowulf

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If you're alluding to me, I'm not outraged that she was fired. I don't really care. I don't particularly like her character or her as a person. I'm just debating what seems like an overreaction to what she said.
I don't think it's just because of this time. The first time around they let it go with regards to her twitter posts/bio making fun of trans people. I guess her posting another bunch of tweets in really bad taste was enough for Lucasfilm.
 

tarheelhockey

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Hold up, are there people defending this person's comparison of a genocided population to members of an American political party?

Good lord. At some point people need to realize that not all opinions are valid, there is objective truth. If you think that you can validly compare a member of a political party to someone whose home and culture was razed, whose community was destroyed, whose family was tortured and murdered then you're just wrong, There is no argument, if you buy into that comparison you need to go start reading some shit and reassess yourself. Just because you can make the comparison doesn't make it valid.

Hold up now, you're making it sound like professionally inexcusable behavior in public.
 

Osprey

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You're neglecting the time and remorse factors here. He was being questioned now about things he said 10 years ago ... and he was apologetic/remorseful for it.

Carano is being questioned now for things she's saying now and things she's not remorseful for.

Time and remorse help make up for it, but jokes about rape, child abuse and pedophilia seem a lot worse than making historical comparisons to Nazi Germany. What should she be remorseful for besides the trans joke, which she did quickly take down and apologize for? Should Pascal be remorseful for making a similar comparison to Nazi Germany?
If you took more than two seconds to think about it you would understand they are not the same comparison. Not to mention Pedro Pascal does not have a history of reactionary takes that have landed him in hot water, PLUS he wasn't even employed by Lucasfilm at the time of that tweet.

It's not exactly the same comparison, but many of the same complaints about Carano's paragraph can be applied to it. It's close enough to suggest a double standard.
 

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Time and remorse help make up for it, but jokes about rape, child abuse and pedophilia seem a lot worse than making historical comparisons to Nazi Germany. What should she be remorseful for besides the trans joke, which she did quickly take down and apologize for? Should Pascal be remorseful for making a similar comparison to Nazi Germany?


It's not exactly the same comparison, but many of the same complaints about Carano's paragraph can be applied to it. It's close enough to suggest a double standard.

The biggest difference is one mistake versus a pattern of problematic behavior. The difference is not difficult to see. There is not really a double standard here.
 

Jussi

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John Campea went at length about this. He said he'd heard from a very reliable source that Disney/Lucasfilm, together with her agent company UTA, told her to shut up on social media in November and prepared the statement that she talked with Pedro Pascal and realized she didn't know enough or whatever it was. She didn't so that gave Lucasfilm and UTA the right to let her go.
 

bleedblue1223

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The more "valuable" you are as an asset, the more people are going to look the other way when you do things like that. Gina Carano isn't particularly valuable (her character is easily replaceable and her acting isn't particularly great), so it wasn't so difficult to make the decision to cut ties with her.

And even then, it's likely she got a 3 strikes type thing. I bet they were planning on her having a bigger role on one of the spin-offs.
 
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ArGarBarGar

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Over the 1,000 post limit (has been for awhile), and maybe a new thread will be able to reset the conversation and move on a bit.
 
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