TSN: Standings projection: Leafs ranked 4th in Atlantic

[Damisoph]

No franchise is perpetually competitive. Time for Detroit to hit the skids for a while. Can't think of a better time than now with their aging core.

 

[Gobias Industries]

Depends on the year.

I'd much rather compete in the West this year.

Anyway, this whole thing is over your "vastly superior" comment, which after this runaround you can probably admit isn't completely accurate.

 

[Eb]

He was a guy that you were almost the only one that wanted shipped out the moment he took a stupid picture.

Lol nice

 

[The CyNick]

lol certain people getting exposed in this thread

 

[Garbs]

Anyway, this whole thing is over your "vastly superior" comment, which after this runaround you can probably admit isn't completely accurate.

Maybe not entirely accurate, but I do think the Atlantic is quite a bit stronger than the Central, and will be a lot more difficult to succeed in. Even putting aside the fact that there's an extra team.

 

[Gobias Industries]

Maybe not entirely accurate, but I do think the Atlantic is quite a bit stronger than the Central, and will be a lot more difficult to succeed in. Even putting aside the fact that there's an extra team.

Why are we still talking about the Atlantic?

 

[Rants Mulliniks]

Better teammates I tell you. Makes all the difference in the World.

Who do you predict will score more points this season Grabovski or Bolland or MacArthur verses Raymond?

If you pick the former Leafs then you will be arguing against yourself.

Given Bolland has only managed better than 37 points once and the other has 35 as his low and 58 as his high, I would expect Grabovski to outpoint Bolland, regardless of who he plays with.

 

[Fogelhund]

It wouldn't shock me to see Raymond outscore MacA. Raymond is kind of in this prove you want to be in the NHL phase, and working for a contract and a place in the NHL. MacA has a two year deal.

This isn't an argument suggesting Raymond is a better player, just that you never know what can happen, particularly when properly motivated. MacA should outscore him, but I don't think it should be considered a shock "if" he doesn't.

Bolland vs. Grabs shouldn't even be close, unless Grabs continues to skate around with his head down.

 

[Garbs]

Why are we still talking about the Atlantic?

...Because we compete, along with Detroit, in the Atlantic.

New Atlantic > New Central

 

[Mess]

better teammates?

didn't you always tell us that Leafs' stats were inflated because "somebody has to score on a bad team"?

I see you didn't answer the question, so you must have recognized your own rebuttal opposed your point you were trying to make.

Who gets more points this year.

MacArthur or Raymond ?
Grabovski or Bolland ?

The only way your point is proven if you think the new Leafs outproduce the former ones.

 

[Gobias Industries]

...Because we compete, along with Detroit, in the Atlantic.

New Atlantic > New Central

I'm braindead, sorry man, I completely agree.

 

[Mess]

Leafs 2012:

vs. East: 0.92ppg
vs. West: 1.17ppg

Leafs 2011:

vs. East: 1.03ppg
vs. West: 1.06ppg

Leafs 2010:

vs. East: 0.98ppg
vs. West: 0.61ppg

3yrs:

Vs. East: 0.98ppg
Vs. West: 0.94ppg


And in fact, in 2 of the last 3yrs the conferences have played, it's the LEAFS who have done BETTER against the west than they have agianst the east.

of course, over the 3 years, much like the Wings, the Leafs did just as well vs. both conferences.

which isn't surprising, since both conferences are nearly identical in quality overall.

So wins and losses record directly verses an opponent is skewing the results, but points per game scored is a much more accurate way to measure wins and losses and success when predicting future results.

Interesting

 

[Garbs]

I'm braindead, sorry man, I completely agree.

It's okay I had to go check division names about 8 times during this discussion I was getting so lost.

 

[Gobias Industries]

It's okay I had to go check division names about 8 times during this discussion I was getting so lost.

Haha, yeah, I still feel like the division names would be more accurate if switched.

 

[SprDaVE]

Could be worst, Corey Pronman has us second last in the East this year. He says that he has no confidence in our blue line. Buffalo is the last team, by the way. Not Florida or even New Jersey.

So cute.

 

[Gobias Industries]

Could be worst, Corey Pronman has us second last in the East this year. He says that he has no confidence in our blue line. Buffalo is the last team, by the way. Not Florida or Winnipeg.

So cute.

While that ranking is a joke, I think too many people are sleeping on Florida.

They made the playoffs two years ago, a lot of young players developing, and Thomas could easily remain his elite former self.

 

[SprDaVE]

While that ranking is a joke, I think too many people are sleeping on Florida.

They made the playoffs two years ago, a lot of young players developing, and Thomas could easily remain his elite former self.

And they completely sucked last year. What's your point?

Technically, any team could come out of the gate and surprise. This is why we watch the games. But I find it completely idiotic to diss Toronto's defense while having teams with a far worst defense higher then them in the standings. Florida had to sign 2 cast-offs (Gilbert and Whitney) in order to round out their top 6... such a solid defensive core indeed. It doesn't make any sense.

Meh.

 

[Gobias Industries]

And they completely sucked last year. What's your point?

Technically, any team could come out of the gate and surprise. This is why we watch the games. But I find it completely idiotic to diss Toronto's defense while having teams with a far worst defense higher then them in the standings. It doesn't make any sense.

Meh.

I think too many people are sleeping on Florida.

That was my point.

I wasn't talking about the Leafs...sorry...

 

[Damisoph]

And all of a sudden hundreds, nay, thousands of people have now heard of Corey Pronman.

 

[The CyNick]

And all of a sudden hundreds, nay, thousands of people have now heard of Corey Pronman.

knows what he is doing

 

[startainfection*]

stupid, isles will finish 2nd in the metropolitan

 

[EDDIE20*]

And all of a sudden hundreds, nay, thousands of people have now heard of Corey Pronman.

Corey who? Never heard of the bum. Is he supposed to be credible or something?

 

[SprDaVE]

Corey who? Never heard of the bum. Is he supposed to be credible or something?

ESPN / Hockey Prospectus. A prospect writer for the most part. A decent follow on twitter.

 

[BayStreetBullies*]

Corey who? Never heard of the bum. Is he supposed to be credible or something?

He's a writer for ESPN, so no.

 

[Leafs87]

thank god New Jersey is out of our division. They are far and away the most boring team