St. Louis and San Jose Watch (1st round picks)
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AustonsNostrils
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Boston gets a 1D at 14th overall, a legit top line winger at 25th overall. That's the point.
Isn't that the same brass that was absolutely lambasted as the joke of the league the year before they picked McAvoy for their 3 consecutive picks in 2015 taking basically nothing instead of Barzal, Aho, Boeser etc. ? Completely different from the crew that drafted Pastrnak?
There's some baseline above which you have to hit in the draft to be able to replenish your NHL roster with consistency. Most teams hit it, few are great, and few are terrible. So much more of extended success has to do with what you've done with your NHL roster along the way. Boston's 2003 and 2006 drafts (both far more lucky than skilled - they took Mark Stuart before Bergeron) are far more important to what they're doing right now than two strokes of luck sandwiching a draft that this very forum thought made them the joke of the NHL that one summer as they were supposedly a franchise in decline (trading Hamilton away at the same time etc.)
The Sabres WERE legitimately terrible at it for some time. I'm not convinced that since, say, 2013, they're in an area that wouldn't be acceptable if they hadn't torpedoed their roster to a level we've never seen in franchise history in between.
The Sabres WERE legitimately terrible at it for some time. I'm not convinced that since, say, 2013, they're in an area that wouldn't be acceptable if they hadn't torpedoed their roster to a level we've never seen in franchise history in between.
And they blew 3 consecutive 1sts in between...
And don’t mistake the rosters that are in place for those picks to join and blossom... something Murray understood, and Botts clearly does not.
AustonsNostrils
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All teams whiff on draft picks all the time but the successful organizations hit on picks whether they're in the 1st round or 3rd round more than the Edmontons and Buffalos.
It would be more accurate to say, franchises that get lucky and hit on late 1sts and mid rounders... are more likely to be successful..
Boston is a perfect example... it’s not a repeatable skill if you go from nailing the Pastrnak pick in 2014, to blowing 3 consecutive 1sts in the middle of one of the best 1st rounds ever in 2015
It’s f***ing luck... not competency.
AustonsNostrils
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Look at our ownership, if you think where this team is is because of bad luck ............
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Again...we can draft all the potential hits all we want, but the thing that matters most is development.
Gabrielor
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It's either accepting the 31st pick
or rooting for Carolina or Boston to win and securing the 30th pick.
I'll take the 31st.
Jim Bob
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Jim Bob
RIP RJ
At least the good thing is that the difference between the pick the Sabres get and the pick the Ducks get isn’t that big of a deal.
Who really cares? The focus is on the #7 now. We lost O'Reilly for almost nothing now; Kane pretty much a second. We got a year of Skinner for a 38th +++. It's pretty ugly, only way out is good drafting. That's Botterrill's skill set, he'll need to show it. We'll know if he made this all better in three years.
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Do they hit on the picks or do they hit on the development of those picks?
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We help make teams conference finalists and get nothing in return we should get some kind of thank you.
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Djp
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You can draft a top D in the teens.
You can draft a decent winger in the late 1st who benefits from his line mates.
The last cup winners
Washington
Pittsburgh
Chicago
Lis angeles
All benefited from having 2 top 5 picks and other #1 picks
Pittsburgh draft ..the only 1st to do anything is Marta’s since Staal pick. Thry have drafted some plAyers 3rd round or later
Washington has bern good st getting p,Ayers late 1st and 2nd but not much in 3rd or later not counting goalies since Alzner draft
Chicago...post Kane draft...not much to dhow for their draft on their team players. Some of those drafted got traded.
Los angeles..last top 5 pick was Schenn who they traded. Next year in 2nd was Toffoli. Thry drafted a few other players but nothing unique
Of the 4 finalists...
Carolina has had a bunch of top half 1srs over the last 10 years including multiple top 5s
San Jose...they have on top pick and a few top 10 picks.
St. Louis...they had top 5 picks in the past to build off of.
Snippit
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Yup. Silver living is the Montour trade hurts less than it would have if it was 20OA + Guhle.
But the ROR trade looks even more crappy so there's that.
"Curiously enough, the only thing that went through the mind of the bowl of petunias as it fell was Oh no, not again. Many people have speculated that if we knew exactly why the bowl of petunias had thought that we would know a lot more about the nature of the Universe than we do now."
I feel like the infinite improbability drive is working against Sabre fans actively.
EichHart
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Crazy to look at this thread in Nov/Dec and how bad they were. Everyone was saying this pick is getting deferred to 2020. You just never know in this league, things can change so quickly.
