News Article: Sportsnet: Trouba Requests Trade - Part II

[Hunter368]

So it'll be 5 minutes of Overhardt repeating the statement he released, telling us absolutely nothing. Meh.

Like a Chevy interview then?

 

[Aavco Cup]

Wouldn't all these players been told 1000 times that they don't EVER go to media without discussing with the agent first? Negotiating 101. I don't neccessarily buy that Trouba was naive. I think he momentarily lost it and was then reined back in. This story isn't over yet.

Or perhaps they just read Wiecek's article and realize there could be some "interesting" questions arising from the 180 turn Trouba has made in less than 2 weeks.

 

[drumzan]

Okay, Lawless needs to ask Overhardt whether there are any off limit trade destinations, and if so, why?

This is going to be a PR war that was started by Overhardt. The blowback has already stung Trouba, I think. I highly doubt there is a rift, though. But it won't hurt for there to be heavy or pressure on Trouba. It might Chevy more flexibility in trade destination options, and Trouba might be willing to reduce contract demands, which would boost trade value.

Absolutely. Put Overfart on the spot then call him out if he gives a wishy washy answer.

 

[Howard Chuck]

Definitely less interesting

Sounds to me that they were expecting a different result from the trade request announcement. I'm very happy that they didn't get the response that they hoped. Now they're scrambling.

Stay strong Chevy!

 

[Hunter368]

Because I think the real answer is "no", and the Jets might need to call him out for saying it's all about playing time and role. Get him on record saying he'd be okay to go any where he could play more RD.

Who cares really, not sure the point. He has a right to play or not, jets have a right to trade him or not. Seems like a vain POV

 

[blues10]

This is what Trouba pays his agent to do. Not surprising that the agent is doing the interview. Not sure why Trouba agreed to the interview in the first place.

Can't see the Trouba camp winning many PR wars in this contract stalemate.

 

[Hunter368]

It's certainly something we haven't seen before. It's new to Overhardt's playbook, but I'm not sure what it will accomplish. It probably won't get him traded any faster.

Don't think that was the point, likely just wanted to clear the air with fans, city, etc. Good on him, but agent now reminded him this is a business and taking over. Both jets and agent are playing business, no room for anything else

 

[scelaton]

Lots of factors in play in a very short time! IMHO, here is how they are playing out...

Trouba's family--Have always been very controlling, with grandiose ideas about how and where their kid will achieve stardom. Reminds me a bit of the Lindros family.

Overhardt--A head case who is used winning with aggressive tactics. He has met his match with TNSE and will default to even more audacious tactics if given the opportunity. Going public at this point was idiotic and we will have to see what damage control ensues.

The Jets leadership group--They are a wild card--a very strong and cohesive bunch, who are not going to stand idly by and allow another Kane saga. Their influence with Trouba--who I believe is much better liked in the dressing room than Kane-- and the immediacy of social media could have a major effect on Trouba's position.

Trouba himself--I see him as much more passive than people think. He is being manipulated by all sorts of people who think they are smarter than they actually are, and know what's best for JT, which they do not.

The next few days will be very interesting. The prolonged holdout is no surprise at all, but the public statement by Overhardt was completely idiotic. There is a real possibility, albeit small, that Trouba's family will fire Overhardt once they realize his latest tactic is blowing up in their faces.

 

[Whileee]

Who cares really, not sure the point. He has a right to play or not, jets have a right to trade him or not. Seems like a vain POV

In a PR scrap it helps to have your opposition on record, especially if it helps your position. If Overhardt says they'll be happy with a trade anywhere, Chevy has that ammo if he needs it. If he says that Trouba would not like some destinations, it paints him in a bad light, which is also to Chevy's advantage. It helps the Jets if Overhardt isn't allowed to completely control the message. They need to be challenged a bit.

 

[Aavco Cup]

Don't think that was the point, likely just wanted to clear the air with fans, city, etc. Good on him, but agent now reminded him this is a business and taking over. Both jets and agent are playing business, no room for anything else

No I think there's more to it. There's no way Overhardt wasn't involved in getting Trouba on Lawless show. They are friends from Peterborough. There was a change of heart.

 

[Aavco Cup]

Well I guess Trouba has a long wait ahead of him

 

[Whileee]

No I think there's more to it. There's no way Overhardt wasn't involved in getting Trouba on Lawless show. They are friends from Peterborough. There was a change of heart.

Agreed. Maybe Overhardt went over talking points with Trouba and realized it could be a tire fire and decided to step in instead.

 

[Howard Chuck]

No I think there's more to it. There's no way Overhardt wasn't involved in getting Trouba on Lawless show. They are friends from Peterborough. There was a change of heart.

Agree. There are no good intentions in any of this strategy. This is simply people who are used to getting what they want but they run into a more formidable opponent.

 

[Puckatron 3000]

So it'll be 5 minutes of Overhardt repeating the statement he released, telling us absolutely nothing. Meh.

Yep.

This was in response to a suggested question on Gary's twitter feed:

 

[Howard Chuck]

Well I guess Trouba has a long wait ahead of him

Perfect pr move by the jets. Guess you're sitting Jacob

 

[Analyst365]

What and idiot.
Should've kept his head down and played. Now this mess.

 

[Whileee]

Well I guess Trouba has a long wait ahead of him

Let Overhardt start making all the calls to teams to drum up interest. He might have to give a team a sweetheart deal to facilitate a trade, though. Chevy should tell Overhardt he tried his best but couldn't find a deal that worked. Sorry. Let me know if you want to chat any time in the future. I'm focusing on other issues.

 

[Whileee]

Yep.

This was in response to a suggested question on Gary's twitter feed:

So, Overhardt BSed Lawless. Lawless should call him out on it tomorrow.

 

[Koonta]

Who cares really, not sure the point. He has a right to play or not, jets have a right to trade him or not. Seems like a vain POV

Obviously people care or it wouldn't have been asked in the first place. Perhaps some are interested if Trouba feelings towards certain trade destinations might negatively impact a possible trade to those cities, or no questions can be asked and the agent can just repeat what was in the statement released on Saturday.

 

[JetsFan815]

Chevy should tell Trouba and his agent- 4.75 million 6 years final offer till Dec 1, no bridge deals, no nothing, non negotiable. Say we're trying to find a trading partner but we're not gonna settle for less than fair value, trying to trade you unsigned or on a bridge deal when you have already asked for a trade from a team doesn't get us good value. Sign this long-term deal or sit.

The Jets can afford to tank a year and get into the Liljegren sweepstakes. Either Trouba sits out and the Jets suck giving us nice draft pick or the Jets come out strong and Trouberhardt have egg on their face with a Drouin 2.0 situation

 

[surixon]

Well I guess Trouba has a long wait ahead of him

Perfect, exactly how they should be proceeding with this.

 

[ffh]

Chevy should tell Trouba and his agent- 4.75 million 6 years final offer till Dec 1, no bridge deals, no nothing, non negotiable. Say we're trying to find a trading partner but we're not gonna settle for less than fair value, trying to trade you unsigned or on a bridge deal when you have already asked for a trade from a team doesn't get us good value. Sign this long-term deal or sit.

The Jets can afford to tank a year and get into the Liljegren sweepstakes. Either Trouba sits out and the Jets suck giving us nice draft pick or the Jets come out strong and Trouberhardt have egg on their face with a Drouin 2.0 situation

Seriously this is trouba not doughtyor karlsson

 

[ComplexChris]

you're clearly on Team Trouba.
they're not parting ways just yet. they're in too deep to part ways.

I do want Trouba to stay but I am fine with him leaving for the right price. Was quite disappointed about it yesterday though but it's all good now, as long as we get the right price for him which I think Chevy is doing (LHD similar age and capability).

That's true but what's happening with this is very odd.

 

[nobody important]

What and idiot.
Should've kept his head down and played. Now this mess.

This just confirms what I've suspected for some time. Trouba has the thought processes of a frat boy dropped on his head at birth, when awoken at 6 am after a keg party.

 

[jetman]

So if the Jets don't trade Trouba before the start of the season. How long do you think it will take until Trouba caves in a signs a contract? Or will he go to the KHL?