nyrmessier011
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Bettman DID NOT move the cap over 10 mil...he moved it 500k...old proposal was 32 floor -42 cap...he proposed 42.5 yesterday
I'am not going by Tsn. I'am stating that it's over and all signs point in that direction.I don't need Tsn to tell me this. It is done like dinner and so NHL.crossxcheck said:If you're going by what tsn reported or any other media source, then you're blind. The media has been used during this process to pressure each side and to shape public opinion. TSN and sportsnet know no more about what is really happening than you and I do. We'll see who's right soon enough, though.
Crows said:You don't see how DROPPING LINKAGE AND MOVING THE CAP UP OVER 10 MILLION is making a concession? :lol :lol
NewBreed19 said:I'am not going by Tsn. I'am stating that it's over and all signs point in that direction.I don't need Tsn to tell me this. It is done like dinner and so NHL.
I'm done with being optimistic! I hope that Bettmen& Goodenow pay for this lockout. I think that the game will suffer more damage if they both stay on.crossxcheck said:Like I said, we'll see who's right soon enough. I'm more of a cup half full kind of guy.
Thunderstruck said:Impasse is very much still an option.
You know my stance, and now I have become a moderate. If you can't see Goodenow's incompentence in this whole mess, you are blind.go kim johnsson said:this is stupid. bettman continues to show his incompetance.
go kim johnsson said:I lack grasp of reality? You're the one who supports the idiot Bettman. It's his fault we're in this mess. It's his fault we're going to cancel the season because he won't raise a cap not even $3M. The players give him a cap, give the players SOMETHING. Make a concession. Something he won't do. He is the worst commishioner, ever. Worse than Bud Selig.
slats432 said:You know my stance, and now I have become a moderate. If you can't see Goodenow's incompentence in this whole mess, you are blind.
I personally won't be happy unless they are both terminated. I will probably celebrate the day they are both gone.
Goodenow could have negotiated his deal in September. He could have not waited until the deadline to say "Drop linkage and we will start talking about the cap."
They are both ridiculous and poor negotiators. Any reasonable negotiator can get a deal done better than these two buffoons.
nyrmessier011 said:Bettman DID NOT move the cap over 10 mil...he moved it 500k...old proposal was 32 floor -42 cap...he proposed 42.5 yesterday
Exactly, I love how they both pretended it was something new in the letters last night.slats432 said:You know my stance, and now I have become a moderate. If you can't see Goodenow's incompentence in this whole mess, you are blind.
I personally won't be happy unless they are both terminated. I will probably celebrate the day they are both gone.
Goodenow could have negotiated his deal in September. He could have not waited until the deadline to say "Drop linkage and we will start talking about the cap."
They are both ridiculous and poor negotiators. Any reasonable negotiator can get a deal done better than these two buffoons.
Completely agree. The whole situation is tough enough to deal with as it is, but when these two idiots bring their personal drama into the fray, it's a near impossibility... as we are seeing today.slats432 said:You know my stance, and now I have become a moderate. If you can't see Goodenow's incompentence in this whole mess, you are blind.
I personally won't be happy unless they are both terminated. I will probably celebrate the day they are both gone.
Goodenow could have negotiated his deal in September. He could have not waited until the deadline to say "Drop linkage and we will start talking about the cap."
They are both ridiculous and poor negotiators. Any reasonable negotiator can get a deal done better than these two buffoons.
Pepper said:Yes, it's Bettman's fault that PA decided they can live with a cap 3 days before the deadline after 8 months of saying they will NEVER accept a hard cap no matter how high.
WAKE UP DUDE!! Had they given Bettman that 52M hard cap even one week earlier there would be a season but NO, they made up their minds 3 DAYS before the deadline.
NHLPA carries the huge majority of the blame in this.
You're so full of blind hate that it's clouding your judgement big time.
nyrmessier011 said:Bettman DID NOT move the cap over 10 mil...he moved it 500k...old proposal was 32 floor -42 cap...he proposed 42.5 yesterday
slats432 said:You know my stance, and now I have become a moderate. If you can't see Goodenow's incompentence in this whole mess, you are blind.
I personally won't be happy unless they are both terminated. I will probably celebrate the day they are both gone.
Goodenow could have negotiated his deal in September. He could have not waited until the deadline to say "Drop linkage and we will start talking about the cap."
They are both ridiculous and poor negotiators. Any reasonable negotiator can get a deal done better than these two buffoons.
Kim,go kim johnsson said:No it's not. Not when both sides agree there will be a salary cap. If you're $6.5M apart, the NLRB will laugh them out of the country.
MissTeeks said:It seems as though Sportsnet has removed the "NHL will move off its $42.5 million offer" rumour from off its front page
http://www.sportsnet.ca
Actually it says it at the bottom of the article with "more to come..."MissTeeks said:It seems as though Sportsnet has removed the "NHL will move off its $42.5 million offer" rumour from off its front page
http://www.sportsnet.ca
Bruins4419 said:Actually it says it at the bottom of the article with "more to come..."
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/article.jsp?content=20050216_113559_2816