No he can't. It's been decided. They won't take the chance that he has one of those games while wearing the Red Maple Leaf. No matter how well he plays, they won't take the chance.
Spezza and Sochi Olympics
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No he can't. It's been decided. They won't take the chance that he has one of those games while wearing the Red Maple Leaf. No matter how well he plays, they won't take the chance.
Qward
Because! That's why!
Yzerman will take more "vet" guys over people like Hall and Subban.
Stamkos/Crosby/Iginla
Nash/Giroux/Perry
Bergeron/Toews/Tavares
E.Staal/Thornton/Marleau
Keith/Weber
Letang/Doughty
Pietrangelo/Staal
Luongo
Price
Brodeur
Is the limit 21 players right now? I know they want to change it but what is it right now?
well, it's 23 players. 13-7-3 or 12-8-3.
They probably will take more vets, doesn't mean they should
Legend Killer
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It was a quote... I thought he said "bestoffensive player" but everyone else heard "best defensive player"
Say it in Alfie's voice and it makes sense....
Clamshells
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uhh what? JT has never been better than Spezza offensively, at best they're equal right now, and is not relied on defensively at all.
lol ok
doubt Alfie actually said defensive. would be very surprised
JT brings it when he plays for Canada. He brings it in big games. He's also more versatile and a better goal scorer.
Because of these things, they'll take Tavares over Spezza even if they're ''equal''. Tavares could easily be better next year too.
Spezza is better than Tavares, Toews, and Bergeron. Actually a lot of your choices can be questioned...
This.
Only because he has a cup. Like I said earlier Spezza will never get the respect he deserves until he has a cup.
saskriders
Can't Hold Leads
Does anyone remember what Bergeron's role was?
Wasn't it mainly as a faceoff specialist?
Bergeron is pretty much the only centre (who should even should be considered to be in the conversation) better at faceoffs than Spezza, but Spezza has much better offensive upside. Could he play a faceoff specialist role?
Wasn't it mainly as a faceoff specialist?
Bergeron is pretty much the only centre (who should even should be considered to be in the conversation) better at faceoffs than Spezza, but Spezza has much better offensive upside. Could he play a faceoff specialist role?
HavlatMach9
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9 out of 10 experts heard "best defensive player", after hearing the replay.
No, it's the similar offensive output + Selke defense.
It's coming up huge in big games.
It's the Conn Smythe Trophy + Stanley Cup.
Olympic Gold, WC Gold, WJC Gold, U-17 Gold.
Toews is a winner, and everything Spezza isn't (in a good way)
experts on?
Spezza is so far from being the best defensive player on the Sens. He's not even close to best defensive forward.
***** I forgot you have blinders on when talking about Spezza. Spezza is over a PPG player over twice the sample of Toews and he's not even a PPG player.
I guess it's fine to play on loaded teams and then claim that as to why you are so good?
Brb Spezza won the Spengler
HavlatMach9
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In his/her defense, he/she uses statistics and data to argue points, even if the conclusions are entirely wrong.
Like, the sky is blue, so a dragon comes out of it.
YNWA14
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In what way? He's really not at all. When Spezza played with players comparable to the players that Towes plays with now and has been playing with since before he won the cup Spezza was 100+ point pace player almost every year. Now his defensive game has really improved and he's also one of the better faceoff guys in the league.
Spezza is a way better playmaker, better at scoring goals, nearly as good at faceoffs, way better at carrying the puck but not quite as good defensively (and I would only say this because of reputation and physicality).
Spezza is closer defensively to Toews than Toews is offensively to Spezza.
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I'd have to say Towes over Spezza each and everytime 10 times out of 10.
And your earlier selection of Methot on d (even if it is as an injury replacement) Not a chance! I wouldn't watch that fiasco if that's the way Hockey Canada wants to go.
Dysentery
Ottawa Senators
A couple of days ago in a Team 1200 interview, Alfie was asked about losing Spezza, and he referred to Spezza as the teams best defensive player.
When it matters (playoffs and international tournaments), Toews is every bit as good offensively as Spezza. If not better (I think he is).
Toews has also been quite near ppg in the regular season... You know how Yzerman sacrificed offense for defense? That's Toews.
And then ramps it up to another level at crunch time.
Toews is a shutdown centre also. You know the Staal, Bergeron, Kesler types? Toews fits right in there.
That's the difference between the 2 players... Take that epic Toews shootout... Spezza doesn't do things like that. Toews has the it factor.
wit. Whatever it takes. Toews has it in spades. Spezza, not so much.
See above.
Also, Toews is a better goal scorer.
Also, sorry, but you're clueless if you think Spezza is anywhere near Toews defensively. Not just in the defensive zone, but in terms of being responsible all over the ice (turnovers and proper positioning).
Toews never had linemates as good as Alfredsson and Heatley. Not even close. Spezza scored more because of that and because scoring was just higher in general... Regular Season scoring also doesn't mean he'll produce more in the Olympics either obviously
What Mr Writer said
Probably meant offensively
A couple of days ago in a Team 1200 interview, Alfie was asked about losing Spezza, and he referred to Spezza as the teams best defensive player.
Probably meant offensively
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