Soccer Prospect Discussion Thread IV

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    Ed Carlos, Brazilian Pogba. I've watched a lot of him, I can confirm he's one of the best in his age group in Brazil. His only weakness is that he isn't as mobile as Pogba, but he's got all other tools. Very tall for a 17y old (1,88 cm), great vision, passing, high IQ, long shooting, technique... I can' wait to watch him in Copa Sao Paulo next year. Good thing Sao Paulo already renewed his contract.
     
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    Redan with a haul vs Bosnia. Quality 4 goals as well. He's been all over the Chelsea academy, playing with the U19 and U23 as a 17 year old. Hoping he really gets a fair shot in the near future.
     
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    To be honest he's probably already Chelsea's best striker. He would look great playing with Hazard under Sarri.
     
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    I hope so. Chelsea isn’t exactly known for playing their youth, or rather Ajax’ youth in this case. Who are his biggest competitors and how far along is he really?

    I think Redan should add some pounds first before I see him succeed vs the likes of big, imposing defenders such as Virgil van Dijk, from the bits I’ve seen.
     
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    The underrating of Giroud continues
     
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    I'd hold off declaring him better than Morata until he actually plays his first minute at the senior level as well :dunno:
     
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    He will get first team minutes. In Vitesse.
     
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    Give him the Ballon d'or already.
     
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    That's why I said 'probably'. Everything he does looks translatable to the senior level but you never really know that the transition is going to work out perfectly.
     
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    Updated and final, more detailed version. Lots of changes as the list is made with someone else. Also added a current, total top 10 (note that the comparisons are solely based on style, not on potential).

    1997
    1) Abdelhak Nouri AM – 90E – Ajax/HOL*
    2) Frenkie de Jong CM - 90B – Ajax/HOL
    3) Steven Bergwijn W - 86B – PSV/HOL
    4) Kasper Dolberg ST - 83B – Ajax/DEN
    5) David Neres W - 82B – Ajax/BRA
    6) Arnaut Groeneveld LW – 80B – Brugge/HOL
    7) Donnie van de Beek CM - 79A – Ajax/HOL
    8) José Angel Tasende Angelino 76B – LB – PSV/SPA
    9) Guus Til CM – 70A – AZ/HOL
    10) Noussair Mazraoui RB - 74B – Ajax/HOL
    11) Pablo Rosario DM - 70A - PSV/HOL
    12) Michel Flap AM - 71B - HEE/HOL
    13) Sam Lammers ST - 70B - PSV/HOL
    14) Alessio da Cruz W/AM – 70C – Parma/HOL
    15) Vaclav Cerny LW – 76D – Ajax/CZE

    HM: Laros Duarte (PSV), Hidde ter Avest (Udinese), Philippe Sandler (Manchester City), Juninho Bacuna (Huddersfield Town), Matteo Casseira (Ajax), Mohamed El Hankouri (Feyenoord), Rasmus Nissen Kristenssen (Ajax).

    1998

    1) Carel Eiting CM - 84B – Ajax/HOL
    2) Calvin Stengs W – 83C – AZ/HOL
    3) Timothy-Fosu Mensah D – 83C – Manchester United/HOL
    4) Javairo Dilrosun LW – 80C - Hertha BSC/HOL
    5) Rick van Drongelen CB – 78B – HSV/HOL
    6) Justin Bijlow GK – 76C – Feyenoord/HOL
    7) Kaj Sierhuis ST – 76C – Ajax/HOL
    8) Dante Rigo CM - 79C - PSV/BEL
    9) Ritsu Doan AM - 75C - Groningen/JAP
    10) Ferdi Druijff ST - 73B - AZ/HOL
    11) Justin Hoogma CB - 75C - Hoffenheim/HOL
    12) Teun Koopmeiners DM – 72C – AZ/HOL
    13) Rodney Kongolo DM – 74D – Heerenveen/HOL
    14) Maxmillan Wöber CB – 69B – Ajax/AUS
    15) Sherel Floranus LB/RB – 68B - Heerenveen/HOL

    HM: Jasper van der Werff (Red Bull Salzburg), Dani de Wit (Ajax), Gianni dos Santos (Sparta), Hassane Bandé (Ajax), Giovanni Troupee (Utrecht), Dennis Johnson (Ajax), Julian Chabot (Groningen), Sherwin Seedorf (Bradford).

    1999

    1) Matthijs de Ligt CB – 94B – Ajax/HOL
    2) Tahith Chong RW – 86B – Manchester United/HOL
    3) Justin Kluivert LW – 83C – AS Roma/HOL
    4) Armando Obispo CB 82B – PSV/HOL
    5) Maximilliano Romero ST – 82C – PSV/ARG
    6) Perr Schuurs CB 82B – Ajax/HOL
    7) Joel Piroe ST – 83C – PSV/HOL
    8) Donyell Malen W/AM - 80C – PSV/HOL
    9) Bobby Adekanye RW – 80D – Liverpool/HOL
    10) Nick Venema ST - 78B - Utrecht/HOL
    11) Danilo Pereira ST – 80C – Ajax/BRA
    12) Che Nunnely LW/RW – 79D – Ajax/HOL
    13) Leandro Fernandes DM – 76D – Juventus/HOL
    14) Ferdi Kadioglu AM – 74C – Fenerbache/HOL
    15) Tyrell Malacia LB – 72B – Feyenoord/HOL

    HM: Cody Gakpo (PSV), Owen Wijndal (AZ), Emanuel Boateng (Lazio), Noa Lang (Ajax), Mitchell van Bergen (Heerenveen), Dylan Vente (Feyenoord), Deroy Duarte (Sparta), Jordan Teze (PSV), Nathangelo Markelo (Everton), Godfried Frimpong (Benfica), Anderson Lopéz (AS Monaco), Halil Dervisoglu (Sparta).


    2000

    1) Mitchell Bakker LB/CB 83B – Ajax/HOL
    2) Juan Familia Castillo LM/LB - 81C – Chelsea/HOL
    3) Orkün Kokcü AM - 80C - Feyenoord/HOL
    4) Kik Pierie LB/CB - 78B – Heerenveen/HOL
    5) Achraf El Bouchataoui AM - 78C – Feyenoord/HOL
    6) Jurgen Ekkelenkamp CM – 77B - Ajax/HOL
    7) Millen Baars AM – 78B – Manchester United/HOL
    8) Jasper Schendelaar GK – 76B – AZ/HOL
    9) Nicolas Kuhn ST - 77C – Ajax/GER
    10) Victor Jensen AM – 80C - Ajax/DEN
    11) Ludovit Reis AM - 76C - Groningen/HOL
    12) Delano Ladan W/AM - 75C - ADO Den Haag/HOL
    13) Kjell Scherper GK – 73B – Emmen/HOL
    14) Gianni van de Pitte AM - 72C - NAC/HOL
    15) Yassin Nasser AM - 72C - Utrecht/PSV

    HM: Lucas Leverland (ADO), Dominik Kotarski (Ajax), Lutsharel Geertruida (Feyenoord), Zakaria Aboukhlal (PSV), Kees de Boer (Swansea), Elayin Tavsan (Sparta).


    2001

    1) Daishwan Redan ST – 90C – Chelsea/HOL
    2) Myron Boadu ST – 84B – AZ/HOL
    3) Joshua Zirkzee ST – 84C – Bayern München/HOL
    4) Manuel Pherai AM – 83C – Dortmund/HOL
    5) Wouter Burger CM – 82C – Feyenoord/HOL
    6) Liam van Gelderen CB – 80C – Ajax/HOL
    6) Joey Koorevaar GK - 80C - Feyenoord/HOL
    7) Crysencio Summerville RW – 80C – Feyenoord/HOL
    8) Vicente Besuijen AM – 78C – Roma/HOL
    9) Sekou Sibide RW – 78C – PSV/BEL/IVO
    10) Yorbe Vertessen ST – 78C – PSV/BEL
    11) Sepp van den Berg CB – 77C – Zwolle/HOL
    12) Cheick Touré CM – 74C – Feyenoord/HOL
    13) Shurandy Sando CB – 74C – PSV/HOL
    14) Kenzo Goudmijn AM – 74C – AZ/HOL
    15) Ramon Hendriks CB – 71C – Feyenoord/HOL

    HM: Tyro Nimmermeer (Lazio), Marouan Azarkan (Feyenoord), Sydney van Hooijdonk (NAC), Christopher Mamengi (Utrecht), Denilho Cleonise (Genoa), Thomas Buitink (Vitesse), Jurrien Timber (Ajax), Quinten Timber (Ajax), Anouar El Mhassani (West Ham United), Enric Llansana (Ajax), Omar Rekik (Hertha BSC), Jimmy Kaparos (Schalke), Daan Reiziger (Ajax), Splinter de Mooij (Feyenoord).

    2002/2003
    1) Naci Unuvar AM – 91C – Ajax/HOL
    2) Xavi Simons CM – 91C – Barcelona/HOL
    3) Ryan Gravenberch CM – 90C Ajax/HOL
    4) Brian Brobbey ST – 85D – Ajax/HOL
    5) Mohammed Ihattaren W/AM – 84D – PSV/HOL
    6) Melayro Bogarde CB - 83C – Hoffenheim/HOL
    7) Jaymillo Pinas ST – 83C - Ajax/HOL
    8) Jenno Campagne CM 82C - Ajax/HOL
    9) Jayden Braaf ST 82C – Manchester City/HOL
    10) Sontje Hansen W/ST – 83C – Ajax/HOL
    11) Jeremy Antonisse W/CAM- 82C - PSV/HOL
    12) Noah Ohio ST - 82C - Manchester City/HOL
    13) Kian Fitz-Jim AM – 81C – AZ/HOL
    14) Ki-Jana Hoever RB – 80C – Liverpool/HOL
    15) Tein Troost GK - 80C - Feyenoord/HOL
    16) Dillon Hoogewerf ST - 80C – Ajax/HOL
    17) Ian Maatsen CB – 80C – Chelsea/HOL
    18) Kenneth Taylor CM – 80C – Ajax/HOL
    19) Mohamed Taabouni AM – 77D – AZ/HOL
    20) Naoufal Bannis ST – 75D – Feyenoord/HOL

    HM: Jordi Altena (Vitesse), Heritier Bora Deyonge (PSV), Salah-Eddine (Ajax), Neraysho Kasanwirjo (Ajax), Dirk Proper (NEC), Syb van Ottele (NEC).
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    Top 10 Dutch prospects:

    1) Matthijs de Ligt CB – 94B – Ajax/HOL
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX0THVpiYRI
    Style comparison: Frank Rijkaard, or a mix between Pique and Vertonghen
    Maxed potential: Best at his position

    Pro’s:
    - Strong, especially in the air
    - An aereal threat on set pieces offensively
    - Remains calm under pressure
    - Outstanding tackler.
    - Disciplined
    - Passing is good, quality long ball. A CB to be trusted with the ball.
    - Ball possesion is his number one priority, even in defensive battles.
    - Wins most of his personal battles.
    - A vocal leader. Ajax captain at 18 years old.

    Cons:
    - His acceleration is average. Likes to clutch and grab to compensate. Strikers should take more advantage of this.
    - Sometimes still out of positon, often having to correct his own positional faults.
    - Short, speedy forwards are his kryptonite.
    - Should butcher the ball more during pressure situations.
    - Hard shot, but never shoots on goal or gets himself in the position to.

    2) Naci Unuvar AM - 91C - Ajax/HOL
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud0AqJzoTKA&t=4s
    Style comparison: Mix between Kaká and Messi
    Maxed potential: Top 5 at his position

    Pro’s:
    - Outstanding dribbler
    - Creates space for his teammates
    - First touch is excellent.
    - Quick, agile, light footed.
    - Outstanding vision; reads plays well.
    - Above average shot; more touch than power.
    - Creative, technical – joy to watch.
    - Very smart player; high football IQ; has continuesly played vs boys 2 to 4 years older.

    Cons:
    - Short in size, though at 15 should still grow and beefen up more.
    - Can be a bit to enthusiastic.
    - Defensively there’s still a lot of room to grow. He saves his energy when his team doesn’t have possession.
    - Plays with a lot of risk in his game; prone to turnovers.

    3) Xavi Simons CM - 91C - Barcelona/HOL
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJ8BroO4MqM&t=1s
    Style comparison: mix between Xavi and Edgar Davids
    Maxed potential: Top 5 at his position

    Pro’s:
    - Fast, with or without the ball. First touch is top notch.
    - Thinks very quickly.
    - Finds openings rather effortlessly.
    - Outstanding through ball.
    - Creates space and opportunities for his teammates
    - Works hard, defends well; passionate.
    - A real director on the pitch; directs the tempo of the match.
    - High football IQ
    - A vocal leader

    Cons:
    - Should shoot more often. He can be too generous with his passing.
    - Size, much like Unuvar, is rather short, but he might still grow, nor does it affect players with his IQ much.
    - Can be too fancy. I think he can be even more effective with his playmaking.

    4) Frenkie de Jong CM - 90B - Ajax/HOL
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=7go9SsN9BaE
    Style comparison: Mix between Beckenbauer and Iniesta
    Maxed potential: Best at his position

    Pro’s:
    - Excellent at creating space; Frenkie’s dribbles and body fakes attract opposing players, creating more room for his teammates.
    - Excellent vision and passing – long or short.
    - Always remains calm; shows a lot of patience with the ball.
    - Everything he does has a purpose on the pitch; very high football IQ.
    - A ball hog, but always wants to move forward, even in hopeless or pressured situations.
    - Positionally sound & a quality tackler; making him a reliable stand in defender as well

    Cons:
    - Still rather weak in personal battles vs the bigger players out there.
    - Weak with his head.
    - His shot is non-existant; rarely, if ever shoots the ball.
    - His playing style comes with a lot of risks; prone to turnovers.
    - Leads by example, not much of a vocal leader; rather quiet even.

    5) Dashaiwn Redan ST - 90C - Chelsea/HOL
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uO6T60g7Jo
    Style comparison: Patrick Kluivert
    Maxed potential: Top 10 at his position

    Pro’s:
    - Complete striker. Strong with both feet, okay with his head, can be a pinchhitter or create opportunities himself.
    - Times his runs without the ball perfectly – always gets his fair share of chances.
    - Has the speed, guts and technique to be an effective winger, too.
    - Lateral speed, turns quickly, making him hard to guard even with his back towards the goal.
    - Scores easily. Doesn’t need a whole lot of time or space.

    Cons:
    - His final delivery often lacks accuracy.
    - Can be very nonchalant as the game goes on; overconfident with his trickery or shot.
    - Should improve his heading. He can waste some perfect heading opportunities.
    - Can be very negative towards his teammates when things aren’t going well.
    - Not all that tall; around 1.77.

    6) Ryan Gravenberch CM - 90C - Ajax/HOL
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4ynoBAr-O8
    Style comparison: Paul Pogba
    Maxed potential: Top 10 at his position

    Pro’s:
    - Tall, physical, albeit still lanky, midfielder; uses his size and reach very well.
    - Creative; quality playmaker, which is his main quality.
    - Speedy for his size.
    - Calm; knows when to speed things up or slow things down. No nerves.
    - Defensively imposing.
    - Powerful player; hard nosed in battles, hard shot, but also shows finesse in his playmaking and technique.
    - Versatile; can play at all three midfield positions (DM, CM, AM or even wide).
    - Leadership. Very talkative during his youth team days. This is much less for jong Ajax or Ajax, but that’s understandable.

    Cons:
    - Can be prone to making unnecessary fouls at unnecessary moments.
    - Rather wild shot. Should be more precise with his chances. I’ve head his teammates yell: “go get it yourself!” – whenever he was about to shoot from outside the box during practice.
    - His versatility can actually hurt his development. Doesn’t appear to have picked a primary position yet, or better said his coaches. Even played parts as a striker during earlier youth matches.

    7) Tahith Chong RW – 86B – Manchester United/HOL
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0mr21H7Wn0
    Style comparison: George Best
    Maxed potential: Top 10 at his position

    Pro’s:
    - Lots of speed; especially his first steps.
    - Outstanding technique and plays with a lot of flair; uses it effectively.
    - Runs all the time and passes his man easily. Trickery and agility makes him hard to defend.
    - Defends and willing to do the dirty work.
    - Reads the game well and, even at top speed, has the touch to play outstanding through balls.
    - Cuts inside a lot, not the typical backline-crossing-winger.

    Cons:
    - Sometimes goes on runs without a plan – like a headless chicken.
    - Very lanky and a light weight. I think the primary reason he hasn’t made his debut yet, as he has the raw talent to compete with the likes of Martial and Rashford already.
    - Often wanting to do too much. Picking up balls at midfield or suddenly finding himself defending on the other side. Needs to have a coach to put him on a short leash. Mourinho would’ve been a good one if he were to be a more youth orientated coach.

    8) Steven Bergwijn LW - 85B - PSV/HOL
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ1rIvQ3sHc
    Style comparison: Mix between Rob Rensenbrink and Eden Hazard
    Maxed potential: Top 10 at his position.

    Pro’s:
    - Lightning fast; acceleration and top speed.
    - Strong for his size; feisty and passionate.
    - More of a scoring, self-creating winger than he is a backline-crossing-winger.
    - Technique and touch is outstanding; very trickery.
    - Likes to run a lot with the ball. Passes his opponents rather effortlessly.
    - Hard to defend due to his speed and agility. Avoids tackles easily.
    - Powerful shot; albeit predictable, much like Robben shoots, though it needs work.
    - Can switch and be used as a modern free-roaming striker as well; ala Mertens, Aguero.

    Cons:
    - Wild and a lose cannon at times. His ball handling is lacking at times.
    - Needs to have confidence. Can play real dull for stretches if he doesn’t have his mojo.
    - His efficiency needs to be better.
    - I think his crosses need work.
    - Not much of threat with his head.

    9) Brian Brobbey ST - 87D - Ajax/HOL
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0zmAc8Dyz8
    Style comparison: Didier Drogba
    Maxed potential: Top 10 at his position

    Pro’s:

    - Ridiculously strong (club even forbids him to work with weights now); imposing forward.
    - Likes to play with his back towards the goal, hold the ball and wait for his teammates to position themselves, or turn and shoot himself.
    - Underrated speed for a man his size, especially when at full speed.
    - Powerful shot and a strong, fearless header.
    - Deadly in the box. Knows where to be at the right time.
    - Even played winger before, and while his main assets were wasted there, he better understands when and where to anticipate on crosses.

    Cons:
    - Not much of a playmaker.
    - No finesse.
    - A deep lying striker; not that useful without the ball.
    - Needs to surround himself with playmakers and crossing wingers to be most effective.
    - His physical head start will level out once he reaches Ajax I. Will be interesting to see how he holds up.

    10) Carel Eiting CM - 84B - Ajax/HOL
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ix-mfKeQ22Y
    Style comparison: Philip Cocu
    Maxed potential: Top 15 at his position

    Pro’s:
    - Complete midfielder.
    - Quick thinker. High football IQ. His nickname is “the professor”.
    - Always wants to move forward, even in high pressured situations.
    - Calm and mature for his age.
    - Likes to direct play and play long through balls.
    - Does a lot of the little things right (prevents breakouts, closes gaps, smart combinations); a silent force.

    Cons:
    - Strenght. Not the strongest player and often has to put more energy in personal battles than he wants to.
    - His speed is average.
    - Should be more vocal for his position and the touches he is getting.
     
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    Celtic wunderkid karamoko dembele that made headlines a year or so ago for appearing as a 14 year old in an u20 team started for celtics reserve team and scored. He's 15 years old now.
     
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    Loving the new Dutch lists @Ajacied! Wanted to weigh in on Ian Maatsen, who has made a big impression on me in his first three months in England. He's almost always played as a LWB, but did spend time as a LCB in a back three in the 10-1 win against Molde, mostly because Chelsea didn't need the defenders there, it meant he and Castillo could both play and influence the game going forward.

    He reminds me quite a lot of Patrick van Aanholt when he was at Chelsea; to an extent it's an obvious comparison because they share a position, but he has a similar confidence to own the whole side of the pitch, desire to get into the attacking third and make a difference, and supreme athleticism. He trusts his technique in every situation and looks like a player who'll have a 10-12 year top-level (and international) career, even if he might not be a spectacular top-tier superstar.
     
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    Awesome to hear that Juni. If he would focus on LB more that would be great, as for once Oranje are quite deep at CB, both now and down the line. The comparison with van Aanholt is intriguing. I've heard PSV fans compare him to Riccardo van Rhijn before; who was a major talent back in his Ajax days as a RB, so I can understand the move to the side.

    How would you compare him to Castillo? Who's further ahead and who's more likely to get a peek with Chelsea I?
     
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    American winger Konrad de la Fuente, 17 year old born in 2001, is having a very impressive season at Barcelona. He's been the standout in Barcelona's Juvenil A team so far this season, and made the bench for the B team about a week ago. No one makes it out of La Masia anymore into the first team, so I don't think he's going to become a fixture at Barcelona, but he could become the first American to play a match for Barcelona and he's one of the top young prospects in Europe at the moment.
     
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    Castillo's much further ahead but that's solely because of age and experience and time to develop. Castillo's become really impressive over the last year, he's a powerhouse physically now, and is ready for men's football. He basically just plays as an attacker now, even when he's at LWB (his most common position) he doesn't get tasked with too much defensive work, so it'll be interesting to see how he does when he gets into more challenging environments. He's good when he has to do it, he just doesn't face it as often as you want if you see his future being LB.

    Maatsen can get to that level though, he looks to have the frame to add to as he grows, and has some of the same attitude. You can see Castillo's played centrally before in the way he approaches some creative situations, that benefits him, I need to see more of Maatsen to work out if he has that in his locker too though. Early signs are promising.
     
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    So just an update on this Youssoufa Moukoko kid...still 13 he's still playing in the u17 league and building on last season (40 goals, 7 assists in 28 games) he has started this season with 17 goals, 5 assists in 10 games so far. Have to think they'll bump him up again this year despite his age? He's clearly beyond that level.
     
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    Helinho, 18y old, 5 minutes into his pro debut for Sao Paulo, scored this goal. He was Vinicius Jr's replacement at u17 World Cup last year.
     
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    Fernando Ovelar, a 14y old kid has scored for Cerro in their derby against Olimpia.

    14 years old.
     
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    Pavel Buchnevich AV AND GORTON OUT

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    What do you know about Reinier Jesus? I've read good things about him.
     
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    GeorgeLeafer12 GEORGE=JORI,LEAFER=LEHTERÄ,12=JERSEY NUMBER

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    There are few good Finnish prospects in the making.
     
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    Only watched a few matches he played in the u20 this year and last year in the Sudamericano under 15. He looks amazing. Nice body for a 16y old, great technique and vision, good IQ and isn't a ball hog like many of those ultra-talented kids. He's probably the best 2002 born prospect in the country alongside Kaio Jorge from Santos. He's similar to Paqueta in playing style.
     
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    USA is trying to flip Kik Pierie (LB/CB - 81B – Heerenveen/HOL) to their National Team
     
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    Ajacied Stay strong Appie! ❤

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    USA are trying everyone with some American roots right now. And they should, why not. Pierie was born there but moved to Holland when he was just a few months old. He’s represented Oranje in most youth tournaments and could be real Oranje material down the line. Not sure he’ll get a real shot with de Ligt, van Dijk, de Vrij, Aké, Blind crowding his preferred positions, not to mention the likes of Obispo and Schuurs on the verge of breaking through.

    I would understand his decision if he were to chose for the stars and stripes.
     
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