So Babcock needs to go... (Part 2)

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  1. Lebron James

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    Not a happy GM. Shanahan was nodding so maybe thats a good thing?
    Is Babcock on his last straw?
     
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    Did I miss something? Is Boone Jenner Sidney Crosby?
     
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    The players have quit on babcock imo
     
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    Reminds me of all the Marner contract threads. So how many of these threads do we have before "it" actually happens? As with the Marner threads, it can't happen soon enough for me.

    Viva part 2!
     
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    The last 2 full time coaches for the Leafs really bugged the hell outta me. Both are very stubborn and think that they know it all. That's the kinda of vibe I am getting from Babcock. "I know everything! How dare you question me?"
     
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    I agree, and Im guessing he gets the same from the GM and overpaid young punk players.
     
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    Kerfoot and Mikheyev to start that OT was a head scratcher. But when you consider Kerfoot is the most reliable C this year it’s more a condemnation of our other centres.

    Also, if we give Babcock hell for starting a small 5’10” forward, why has our GM and acquired the likes of Petan who are virtually useless?
     
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    Let’s hope so!
     
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    I just remembered this. He should stop watching the hunting channel and people's shoes and get up to date with today's strategies! Update or delete!!!
     
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    Is there anyone else besides Petan?
     
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    A lot of people recognized the situation at the end of last year. Babcock needed to be let go and replaced. It’s unfortunate we improved the roster just to keep him on and the team to have the same issues. It’s been a waste of time to be honest, the timing could not be worse to fire him now.

    But, we’ve invested heavily into our roster. Not much manoeuvring can be done due to the cap situation. The only real significant change we can make at this point is to fire the coach. Get Keefe or someone else in, implement a new system that plays to our strengths, play our best players, put everyone in situations that they can excel in. We have to move forward instead of treading water with a coach that has shown no willingness to adapt.
     
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    The team is better than its record and underlying numbers. Yeah injuries and weak goaltending are issues and some of our players just need to be better, I don't think Babcock is the coach for this team. There are too many problems with him
     
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    I think that Babcock is probably out of touch with today’s young players. I don’t think our young players connect with him or vice versa.
     
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    This. That's the biggest thing. Blame Babcock or not it really doesn't matter. If you've lost the room it's over for you.
     
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    If the Leafs continue to play this sloppy for the month of November and Shanny & Doobie are still perplexed by the decisions the Chicken Boo makes then there is no reason not to fire it.
     
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    Ok, I am willing to be patient. Let's see where things are around American Thanksgiving. They can't wait too long, though.
     
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    Yeah. Carcone and Ennis also come to mind.
     
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    5 weeks and counting!
     
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    I liked Carcone. That guy had bite, kind of like what we are seeing out of Moore and Timashov this year. The opportunity was never going to be there for him on the Leafs though, so at least he gets a chance on a team where he may actually be able to make it some day.
     
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    That's the timeline I'm thinking as well. Dubas didn't go All In with both Muzzin and Barrie only to watch Babcock **** everything up for yet another season. If this team is hovering just above or below .500 in late November, then Dubas will definitely fire Babcock.
     
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    Babcock is a good coach, I don't think there is much debate on that and I like his ability to attract players to our organization

    That being said I do question if he's the right guy to be coaching a team with a roster constructed like this and how good the communication is between Babcock and the players and Babcock and upper management

    There does seem to be a disconnect
     
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    Fire egocock.
     
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