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Nah, this will undoubtedly make him a bigger name than if he was a featured player on SNL for a couple of seasons. He's gonna do the Adam Carolla and Ben Shapiro podcast rounds, blah blah political correctness, blah blah cancel culture.Shane Gillis?
Nah, this will undoubtedly make him a bigger name than if he was a featured player on SNL for a couple of seasons. He's gonna do the Adam Carolla and Ben Shapiro podcast rounds, blah blah political correctness, blah blah cancel culture.
Somebody's head at SNL probably should roll for this, whoever's job it was to vet potential new cast members fell asleep on the job.
Yeah I give it like 10 days max before the Rogan podcast is out with him.Gillis is for sure getting a Joe Rogan podcast episode.
Getting fired from a terrible show like SNL doesn’t qualify as a cancellation either. That’s a gift.
Nah, this will undoubtedly make him a bigger name than if he was a featured player on SNL for a couple of seasons.
Or that he'll just get a different job. If people think cancel culture is someone barred from making a living for life, then obviously that doesn't exist. Not even worth engaging that argument.Oh okay. Losing your new job isn't "cancel culture" because that new job sucked anyway.
Yup. He'll just go back to Gas Digital and Matt and Shane's "Secret" Podcast will return. The people who like him will be happy and the outraged and slighted who didn't like that brand of off key humor will be pleased.Or that he'll just get a different job. If people think cancel culture is someone barred from making a living for life, then obviously that doesn't exist. Not even worth engaging that argument.
Do they want him off SNL? Are they contacting their advertisers? What about the people in the industry that disagree with that notion. Calls to authority usually don't work well.Again, is it cancel culture when people within the industry call it garbage?
I want to make sure I know what I can comment on in social media before I get labeled a part of "the mob".
Pretty much. It's why attacking Chappelle would never work. It's why Colbert got away with his Trump Putin holster joke while a smaller person wouldn't. The one that surprised me was Kevin Hart.Shane Gillis labor worth was not worth the risk to SNL to keep him. The free market has spoken.
I'm just saying that this controversy will give him more exposure than he would have got the one or two skits a night he would have got on SNL.Oh okay. Losing your new job isn't "cancel culture" because that new job sucked anyway.
When I saw the podcast I would have though even less of SNL than I currently do, especially with the optics of his jokes and them hiring their first ever Asian full-time cast member. And many others commented on this as well.Do they want him off SNL? Are they contacting their advertisers? What about the people in the industry that disagree with that notion. Calls to authority usually don't work well.
I'm not sure what your point is and if you deny that there are groups out there, on all sides of issues that will target advertisers and sponsors and endorsements to get people that they don't agree with fired or cancelled, then I don't know where we can go from here. I never stated that it all started the day twitter existed, it's just gotten worse with it.When I saw the podcast I would have though even less of SNL than I currently do, especially with the optics of his jokes and them hiring their first ever Asian full-time cast member. And many others commented on this as well.
Surprisingly enough public perception can be a very important aspect when it comes to media that is so large in scope. To act like people who say ridiculously ****ty things should never suffer some kind of consequence for it is ridiculous to me. This have existed long before Twitter was a thing, so calling it some "cancel culture" is way off the mark. Don Imus lost his radio job before Twitter really took off, and that is only an example I know off the top of my head.
My problem is there is this growing fear from the right and "edgy" comedians who are calling out this vague concept of a "cancel culture", without ever describing what it is or how it manifests or how effective it actually is.I'm not sure what your point is and if you deny that there are groups out there, on all sides of issues that will target advertisers and sponsors and endorsements to get people that they don't agree with fired or cancelled, then I don't know where we can go from here. I never stated that it all started the day twitter existed, it's just gotten worse with it.
I've described, others have described, you either ignored it or just flat out disagree.My problem is there is this growing fear from the right and "edgy" comedians who are calling out this vague concept of a "cancel culture", without ever describing what it is or how it manifests or how effective it actually is.
People ***** on Twitter. That is one of the major features of the platform. If you are going to say racist ****, then people on Twitter are probably going to call you out for it. That isn't "cancel culture" as people describe it.
By the way if you get called out and legitimately try to engage with the criticism in a genuine fashion, you are more likely to lose the heat than if you apologize in a stupid half-handed way like Gillis did.
Kevin Hart tried that if I recall, didn't really help him. Sometimes you don't even get a chance to engage, Al Franken is an example of that.By the way if you get called out and legitimately try to engage with the criticism in a genuine fashion, you are more likely to lose the heat than if you apologize in a stupid half-handed way like Gillis did.
Saying "this is cancel culture" is not an explanation of what it is.I've described, others have described, you either ignored it or just flat out disagree.
Gunn was cancel culture, Kathy Griffin was cancel culture, Mario Lopez, Chris Pratt, etc.
I'm sorry but this is just ridiculous.Cancel Culture isn't just against the right or the left or comedians. It is about a force of ideology, and if you don't apologize and stay in line, then you'll be kicked out. It does nothing to actually change their behavior if it is bad behavior.
If the goal is the eliminate racism, there are much more effective ways to do it.
In previous posts, I'm not going to go back through them when it's apparent that it won't be a worthwhile discussion. It'll inevitably get too political and not productive.Saying "this is cancel culture" is not an explanation of what it is.
I'm sorry but this is just ridiculous.
The concept of "you better stay in line or you are kicked out." What exactly does "stay in line" mean? Not say stupid racist stuff that is demeaning to other people or you may not get a highly sought-after profession that has a very limited number of people who can actually participate, meaning you will have to settle for your regular career?In previous posts, I'm not going to go back through them when it's apparent that it won't be a worthwhile discussion. It'll inevitably get too political and not productive.
What part is ridiculous?
The concept of "you better stay in line or you are kicked out." What exactly does "stay in line" mean? Not say stupid racist stuff that is demeaning to other people or you may not get a highly sought-after profession that has a very limited number of people who can actually participate, meaning you will have to settle for your regular career?