Simon Despres appreciation thread

[Honour Over Glory]

Gets a point, thread is active, *****ing on point...

Ah, the off season.

You guys love to rub salt in the wound, I mean you think this active thread helps the GMs realize they're idiots? No, it just makes it that much more depressing and maddening for us.


I applaud you all, also **** all of you.

 

[MtlPenFan]

"Hey guys, did the Anaheim Despres win their game tonight? LOL!!!"

- Every idiot in every comments section of any article referencing the trade.

 

[Fordy]

Gets a point, thread is active, *****ing on point...

Ah, the off season.

You guys love to rub salt in the wound, I mean you think this active thread helps the GMs realize they're idiots? No, it just makes it that much more depressing and maddening for us.


I applaud you all, also **** all of you.

this thread has little to do with how upsetting this trade is for me

 

[Headshot77]

Which hurts more, seeing Despres on the top pairing for the Ducks, Engelland on the top pairing for the Flames, or Orpik on the top pairing for the Caps?

 

[Harvey Birdman]

Which hurts more, seeing Despres on the top pairing for the Ducks, Engelland on the top pairing for the Flames, or Orpik on the top pairing for the Caps?

Despres/Ducks. Engo is enjoying his time on a young team and getting big minutes while he gets to mentor... Good for him. He will be passed up in the depth chart once their young players mature. And even though it's with a rival, good on Orpik too. Always liked Orpik, would piss and moan about his play from time to time, especially at the end of his time here. But always liked him, and I'll never forget his psychotic shift against Detroit here he nearly took out everyone on the ice in one shift. I never wanted to see him fail, was just time for him to move on from this team, glad he is have success in Washington.

The Despres situation though... That just stings... Like lemon juice in a deep cut kind of sting.

 

[High Flying Birds]

Which hurts more, seeing Despres on the top pairing for the Ducks, Engelland on the top pairing for the Flames, or Orpik on the top pairing for the Caps?

Could care less about Engo and Orpik. Good on them for getting paid but I didn't want them in a Penguins jersey this year or going forward. Losing Despres was devastating. Young and on ELC, skates well, hits like a truck and wasn't afraid to drop the gloves. And our management traded him for a bottom-pairing defender.

I could have at least handled getting a player like Etem back. He was/is in a similar situation as Despres. Low 1st round pick that hasn't quite developed as planned. But at least he has upside. Lovejoy will never be anything more than a bottom pairing guy despite what the Penguins brain-trust think.

 

[Jackpot Jaret]

When a player leaves the Penguins, I usually end up "rooting against them" (I don't hope they lose their career, I just hope they don't play as well so we win the trade, or made the right decision). This is not the case with Despres, Im hoping he does well in Anaheim

 

[Jackpot Jaret]

The scariest part of this team is the fact they can't see the OBVIOUS. Its not just Despres either. I used to be in denile, now its just numb acceptance

 

[IcedCapp]

if "actions speak louder than words", this is how the Ducks feel about Despres (and Despres/Fowler)

the majority of their ES TOI came against the following forwards: Sean Monahan, Sam Bennett, Johnny Gaudreau, and Joe Colborne, and they had, by far, the highest TOI against those players.

 

[Shady Machine]

You think Burkle cares about any deals they make with players not named malkin or crosby? As long as money is made I seriously doubt he really cares about the team year to year when nothing major is going on.

Do you not see the connection between bad trade decisions and making less money?

 

[Shady Machine]

That Ducks defense is really freakin good. It's funny (actually really sad and pathetic) that Shero's plan was to focus on drafting PMD and here we are 6 years later and our defense blows at moving the puck. Meanwhile, the Ducks have a great stable of young skilled forwards AND really good young PMD's. Who knew you could have both?

 

[Iffyiffiffer]

Which hurts more, seeing Despres on the top pairing for the Ducks, Engelland on the top pairing for the Flames, or Orpik on the top pairing for the Caps?

Lemieux at the top of the Pens.

 

[MtlPenFan]

That Ducks defense is really freakin good. It's funny (actually really sad and pathetic) that Shero's plan was to focus on drafting PMD and here we are 6 years later and our defense blows at moving the puck. Meanwhile, the Ducks have a great stable of young skilled forwards AND really good young PMD's. Who knew you could have both?

And that's a team with an internal cap by the looks of it. They actually have to be careful how they spend their money.

Funny how the Ducks having two top end forwards more or less making combined Sid and Geno money doesn't prevent them from having depth.

Jesus how I hate the Pens right now.

 

[Shady Machine]

And that's a team with an internal cap by the looks of it. They actually have to be careful how they spend their money.

Funny how the Ducks having two top end forwards more or less making combined Sid and Geno money doesn't prevent them from having depth.

Jesus how I hate the Pens right now.

Yup. This organization is a total dumpster fire.

 

[BearFlag]

Hi Pens fans. I'm not here to rub salt on anyone wounds. I just had a question about SD since you guys know him better. Some reports were suggesting that the trade happened over off-ice concerns and that's why it seemed so lopsided. Is that true?

For the life of me I can't figure out how this guy would be trouble off-ice based on his time here. However, it's only a few months and you guys have known him a lot longer. Does anyone know what these off-ice concerns could be? I mean I guess you never know how a player is off-ice but it just doesn't add up. Plus even if he has off-ice issues, he's still young and can learn (ie Patrick Kane). Everyone makes mistakes.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

No. That's become part of the running joke that is this trade.

I haven't heard one reliable source go into any sort of detail about his "off ice issues." The local media were just being their usual super-classy selves by kicking a guy on his way out so a dumb-as-**** trade MIGHT sound a little better. It didn't work.

 

[Bennett Brauer]

Hi Pens fans. I'm not here to rub salt on anyone wounds. I just had a question about SD since you guys know him better. Some reports were suggesting that the trade happened over off-ice concerns and that's why it seemed so lopsided. Is that true?

For the life of me I can't figure out how this guy would be trouble off-ice based on his time here. However, it's only a few months and you guys have known him a lot longer. Does anyone know what these off-ice concerns could be? I mean I guess you never know how a player is off-ice but it just doesn't add up. Plus even if he has off-ice issues, he's still young and can learn. Everyone makes mistakes.

I think that was mainly Pittsburgh media justifying the move. Saying "look, the team didn't trust Simon off or on the ice, he wasn't a fit, they wanted him moved".

Nothing confirmed but someone did research and found Despres had an account with online gambling? I don't know if he has a gambling problem or not? Nobody really knows but if the team was that much against gambling, they wouldn't have hired Tocchet and they wouldn't have replaced Skates & Plates with Casino night

With that said, what are the chances of this thread being closed? It was a bad trade but do Caps fans still dwell on Forsberg for Erat? Do Stars fans dwell on Neal & Niskanen for Goligoski? Bad trades happen, a lot of us aren't used to it because Shero's been a great trading GM but looking at the big picture, it isn't a big deal. Not with Maatta, Pouliot, Harrington and Dumoulin in the future. Also that Bortuzzo for Cole deal seems pretty awesome.

We showed our appreciation for Despres, isn't time to move on with what we have instead of constantly dwelling on Despres being moved?

 

[djt153]

the people that made the forsberg trade ultimately paid for those kinds of decisions with their jobs, no?

 

[The Old Master]

Hi Pens fans. I'm not here to rub salt on anyone wounds. I just had a question about SD since you guys know him better. Some reports were suggesting that the trade happened over off-ice concerns and that's why it seemed so lopsided. Is that true?

For the life of me I can't figure out how this guy would be trouble off-ice based on his time here. However, it's only a few months and you guys have known him a lot longer. Does anyone know what these off-ice concerns could be? I mean I guess you never know how a player is off-ice but it just doesn't add up. Plus even if he has off-ice issues, he's still young and can learn (ie Patrick Kane). Everyone makes mistakes.

no...the front office made it up, to try to justify there incompetence when the sh**t started to fly....and it only made the whole cluster **** even more sad than it already was.

 

[BearFlag]

I see. I guess it was just a false rumor. thanks.

 

[The Old Master]

I see. I guess it was just a false rumor. thanks.

Waite.....if it will get fatty back, we'll tell you anything.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

I see. I guess it was just a false rumor. thanks.

Yeah. The one "journalist" I'm thinking of in particular who went a long way towards propagating that rumor won't come with the goods when pressed on it. And like I said... nobody else (of importance) seems to have anything to say about it.

This was not really uncommon around here with Despres. At the start of this very season (or was it '13?) he was rumored to be horribly out of shape and that the team was very upset with him because of it. And that's why he missed a day or two of camp. Turns out he was sick and the team was actually impressed he was showing up, at all. But that didn't stop one or two of the supposed "in the know" media members from gleefully reporting the former and not the latter.

 

[billybudd]

Hi Pens fans. I'm not here to rub salt on anyone wounds. I just had a question about SD since you guys know him better. Some reports were suggesting that the trade happened over off-ice concerns and that's why it seemed so lopsided. Is that true?

For the life of me I can't figure out how this guy would be trouble off-ice based on his time here. However, it's only a few months and you guys have known him a lot longer. Does anyone know what these off-ice concerns could be? I mean I guess you never know how a player is off-ice but it just doesn't add up. Plus even if he has off-ice issues, he's still young and can learn (ie Patrick Kane). Everyone makes mistakes.

I know what they "supposedly" are, but even if they are true, which I'm skeptical about, they're probably overstated.

I'm positive that the only reason you're hearing about these issues that may or may not exist is that we have a political branding specialist masquerading as a CEO. Every time a popular player get shown the door (or is in trade talks), they get kicked on the way out. James Neal "asked for a trade," Chris Kunitz "thinks there's too much pressure here," Simon Despres "has personal problems" (etc etc).

 

[Randy Butternubs]

I love and miss Despres.

 

[SHOOTANDSCORE]

I can't wait to celebrate with you guys when Simon hoists the Cup .

I wonder if he'll drink gravy from it