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Most scouts seemed to think that Dave Bolland outplayed Schremp when they were teammates and linemates in London. Bolland went #32 overall in the second round, so it is hard to justify Schremp going any higher than he did.
If that was the truth Bolland would have been higher on most teams lists.db23 said:Most scouts seemed to think that Dave Bolland outplayed Schremp when they were teammates and linemates in London. Bolland went #32 overall in the second round, so it is hard to justify Schremp going any higher than he did.
Oiltalk said:If that was the truth Bolland would have been higher on most teams lists.
The Oilers took Dubnyk because they were very thin in net. After Deslauriers, there was nothing. How is that deep? By the way, he wasn't the third rated goalie for the Oilers. He was first.db23 said:Edmonton was looking for a forward in the draft going in. Lowe acknowledged that. He had his eye on Drew Stafford, but Stafford went one pick before the Oiler's. If he thought that Schremp was going to be that great, he would have taken him at #14. Instead they took Devan Dubnyk, who was the third rated goaltender, even though the Oilers are relatively deep in net. For the Oiler fans trying to convince themselves that Schremp was a major steal at #25, there isn't much evidence to back it up.
Seachd said:I don't understand what you mean about evidence to back it up. The draft was a month ago. Isn't the evidence an NHL career?
I didn't say that, but you brough up evidence. Give me evidence that he wasn't a steal, then? (And I'm not saying he was. I'm just wondering how you're proving he wasn't.)db23 said:.....Uh, O.K.....I guess we'll have to leave this thread for the next 15 years so we know how the pick turned out, and aren't just "speculating"...
Seachd said:I didn't say that, but you brough up evidence. Give me evidence that he wasn't a steal, then? (And I'm not saying he was. I'm just wondering how you're proving he wasn't.)
Fleury14 said:When a 5'11' 200 pound player is considered small (for a prospect to boot), today's scouts (or wannabe scouts) really need to readjust their priorities.
GorillazXL said:To say that a player won't become a good NHLer because he's under 6' and isn't fast should look at Doug Weight.
Thats nice, but there are so many NHLers now, that there is a large group of NHL players that fit every possible mold of player you could think of. You could virtually pick any prospect on any team and say there are parrallels to "insert NHL players name here".... doesn't mean he has any better chance of panning out.GorillazXL said:To say that a player won't become a good NHLer because he's under 6' and isn't fast should look at Doug Weight. Weight plays a similar game to Schremp, both are shifty players with the puck, both aren't the fastest players on the ice yet they are hard to check because of their ability to control the play. I also wouldn't say Weight was in the best of shape when he played for the Oilers either, but yet his raw talent makes up for his lack of physical prowness. I also remember when Weight first played for the Oilers (early 90's) he was horrible on the back check (the only player on the Oilers who was worst at the time was Arnott), but his defensive game grew with experience. Weight didn't improve much from his first year at Lake Superior to his second yet he managed to developed into an excellent NHLer.
GorillazXL said:If you were to folow the formula:
Originally Posted by Boomhower
iii) Plays a very soft game, avoids as much physical contact as he possibly can.
iv) Can't score 5 on 5.
v) Isn't in great shape.
vi) Didn't improve much from last year.
Then Zach Parise shouldn't be much of a prospect either yet IMO he's a great player.
GXL
I don't think they're similar at all. Bonsignore flat out didn't like the sport of hockey and had no desire to continue playing it after getting drafted by the Oilers. He had all the talent in the world but absolutely no heart. Schremp appears to love the game and it looks like he really wants to become a good player. His attitude problems don't see to have any connection to his love for the game..Roughneck said:Why is Schremp suddenly sounding like every report I've read about Jason Bosignore?
Jacobv2 said:Poor defensively.
You're comparing the NHL playoffs to the OHL playoffs?
eye said:Magician with the puck and that's about it. Under 6', not fast my any means, shy in traffic and high maintenance. Won't make the show.
Jay Thompson said:However, I can say this with a credible source (if you know anyone connected with the Oilers & the draft, they will tell you it to):
The Edmonton Oilers would have selected Kris Chucko with the #25 pick had he not gone to Calgary at #24.
db23 said:Instead they took Devan Dubnyk, who was the third rated goaltender, even though the Oilers are relatively deep in net.
db23 said:Thirdly, Lowe said he was looking for a forward in the draft with his #14 overall pick, and passed over Schremp for a goalie which was less of a priority. Surely if Schremp was a "steal" at #25, he wouldn't be a "reach" at #14, would he? There was more reason to expect that Dubnyk would still be there at #25, than Schremp.
Next time I'll just skip your post altogether, because your statement was idiotic, at best.infinitesadd said:No, I'm comparing important games where young players where sat. Next time read what I said.