Should this season just be considered a write off for the Coyotes?

[Man Bear Pig]

Do you know of any other 1c star RFAs from Arizona?

Thanks for contributing to the thread.

Do you have an original thought?thanks for coming out bud.

 

[AvsFan29]

Do you have an original thought?thanks for coming out bud.

What's your problem? Matthews being on Toronto is irrelevant. He could be on any team and I'd say the same thing. I don't think he would sign an offer sheet anyways.

 

[Bevans]

Not surprising that perception doesn't match the numbers. By the end of the season Arizona will climb that list, no other teams have as many key guys that appear to be gone for the season. Between Demers, Schmalt, Raanta and Dvorak there's another 150 games to add to their total by season's end.

 

[LeafFever]

Do you know of any other 1c star RFAs from Arizona?

Thanks for contributing to the thread.

Do you know of any team that has less money. LOL. They lost 50 million last season. They can't afford an offer sheet. Keep dreaming though.

 

[Nick Hansen]

Move the franchise somewhere else please

Yes, the geographical location of the franchise truly is the problem.

 

[Fixxer]

Coyotes to Seattle would have been much simpler...

 

[AvsFan29]

Do you know of any team that has less money. LOL. They lost 50 million last season. They can't afford an offer sheet. Keep dreaming though.

They're actually at the cap floor, which means they have tons of space.

The NHL has a revenue sharing system, which ensures smaller market teams get sufficient funding for players.

Arizona is also close to having a new owner.

So you literally have no idea what you're talking about. Arizona has the same amount of money to pay players as every other team in the league.

 

[LeafFever]

They're actually at the cap floor, which means they have tons of space.

The NHL has a revenue sharing system, which ensures smaller market teams get sufficient funding for players.

Arizona is also close to having a new owner.

So you literally have no idea what you're talking about. Arizona has the same amount of money to pay players as every other team in the league.

This is your error, "Cap Space" is irrelevant" with the Coyotees. They never pay close to the cap max. In fact, they have to cheat just to reach the cap floor.

They lost 50 million AFTER revenue sharing as per Forbes.

And that new owner will inherit 300 million in debt FYI.

Arizona Coyotes Burned Through About $50 Million Last Year

They have moree debt than the entire value of the franchise. A new owner won't change squat.

 

[AvsFan29]

This is your error, "Cap Space" is irrelevant" with the Coyotees. They never pay close to the cap max. In fact, they have to cheat just to reach the cap floor.

They lost 50 million AFTER revenue sharing as per Forbes.

And that new owner will inherit 300 million in debt FYI.

Arizona Coyotes Burned Through About $50 Million Last Year

They have moree debt than the entire value of the franchise. A new owner won't change squat.

That doesn't mean they can't pay for Matthews. The new owner could easily do it, and a player like Matthews could be seen as a way to boost attendance.

Anyways I doubt Matthews would sign it, even if it was 15m.

 

[Tom Polakis]

Not really. Maybe if they had a big top line like the Avs or Bruins but they don't. It's a team that's supposed to rely on a 4 line attack and balanced scoring.

You take away Schmaltz, Dvorak and Grabner and that completely destroys that supposed strength of theirs. Last game Richardson, Cousins and Garland were playing top 9..

Throw in Raanta and Demers injuries and it just gets worse.

Sure, if they were a strong team to begin with, they could deal with these injuries better. But they're not, so they need at least close to their best possible lineup to compete for the playoffs. And sadly we haven't seen it this season.

It's like, where would the Habs be without Price, Danault, Tatar, Byron and Benn all out at the same time.

It's funny in a way, Coyotes are starting to feel like the Blue Jackets before 16/17.

Jackets were getting better and had a strong finish to the season in 14/15 with a 16-3-1 record in their last 20 games. Then when everyone expected them to push for a playoff spot in 15/16 they had a bad start and Bobrovsky ended up missing more than half a season. That's where people started to write them off again until they broke out in 16/17.

I wouldn't be surprised to see people write the Yotes off after a season like this only to see them catch everyone by surprise next year. There's a lot of similarities between them and Columbus. Pretty good defense, capable goalie, balanced offense without any big stars.

Among the shallow comments and predictable shots at the location and GM, there's this excellent summary. The team may have been a bubble playoff team at the beginning of the season, but those particular injuries on a team with so little depth have really hurt.

 

[Subway Schenn]

You have to think Chayka is on the hot seat?

 

[LeafFever]

You have to think Chayka is on the hot seat?

I doubt it.

 

[LeafFever]

That doesn't mean they can't pay for Matthews. The new owner could easily do it, and a player like Matthews could be seen as a way to boost attendance.

Anyways I doubt Matthews would sign it, even if it was 15m.

Uh, how?

 

[torniojaws]

I would bet that San Jose has a much higher quality strength and conditioning staff than Anaheim does and you can take this back to last year as too as the Sharks were mostly healthy and the Ducks simply weren't.

How's the nightlife in San Jose compared to Anaheim?

 

[SPF6ty9]

Chayka sucks, team has been spinning its wheels for years with no end in sight.

 

[SteelerNation]

Do you have an original thought?thanks for coming out bud.

The inferiority complex is strong in this one.

 

[CupsOverCash]

Move the franchise somewhere else please

I heard Houston is looking for an NHL team. We could always have another team in Florida. Jacksonville is an up and coming city.

 

[Pens x]

No, this team is an embarrassment to the NHL. No more excuses.

 

[The Laukomotive]

... they have been in my opinion the most injured team BY FAR this year...

Did you know that injuries and man-game lost is something you can actually count and track? And did you know you can find people on the internet who do it? Here you go Man-Games Lost NHL (@ManGamesLostNHL) | Twitter

Anyways, they have indeed been injured a ton. Not "the most by far", but still one of the most injured teams.

 

[POVERTY]

Why are we bumping old thre- Oh... Right, this is every year.

 

[matt trick]

That's good information, I counted up all the man games lost and here's where its at as of Jan 4th:
1.Anaheim 208 (excluding Holzer)
2.Dallas 198
3.Ottawa 186 (excluding MacArthur)
4.LA 184
5.Arizona 167 (excluding Hossa and Bolland)
6.Boston 152
7.Vancouver 151 (excluding Dorsett)
8.Detroit 136 (excluding Zetterberg and Franzen)
9.St.Louis 133
10.Montreal 131
11.Philadelphia 127
12.Florida 117 (excluding MacKenzie)
13.New Jersey 114
14.Buffalo 107 (excluding Wilson)
15.Nashville 104
16.Edmonton 99
17.Vegas 96 (excluding Clarkson)
T18.Chicago 94 (excluding Forsling's wrist injury)
T18.Pittsburgh 94
20.NY Rangers 87
21.Calgary 86
22.Colorado 84
23.Carolina 82
24.Washington 77
25.Tampa Bay 75
26.NY Islanders 71
27.Winnipeg 45
28.Toronto 34 (excluding Horton)
29.Minnesota 32
30.Columbus 24
31.San Jose 22

Just my opinion, but I find it hard to believe that this is just luck. I would bet that San Jose has a much higher quality strength and conditioning staff than Anaheim does and you can take this back to last year as too as the Sharks were mostly healthy and the Ducks simply weren't.

This deserves its own thread nice work! If you're up for it adding another 2 years of data (and seeing consistent trends) would make for an even more compelling story.

Also sharks strength coach Mike potenza is supposedly one of the best. Along with having veterans extremely committed to fitness (Jumbo, Patty, Burns in particular), I think potenza plays a major role

 

[Kale Hulls]

Name a more NPC team in any league, any sport.

 

[LeafFever]

Without proper funding they'll never get better. I really would like to know what resources they actually have for scouting and training.

 

[Backhandbeauty]

Without proper funding they'll never get better. I really would like to know what resources they actually have for scouting and training.

Why are you so obsessed with a nothing franchise in the middle of a desert thousands of miles from hockey lolmecca? You would think the yotes had some hand in your teams 50 years of flaccid futility. If you want to mock a franchise how about one that has had every opportunity and resource afforded to them and are the Cleveland browns of the NHL.

 

[LeafFever]

Why are you so obsessed with a nothing franchise in the middle of a desert thousands of miles from hockey lolmecca? You would think the yotes had some hand in your teams 50 years of flaccid futility. If you want to mock a franchise how about one that has had every opportunity and resource afforded to them and are the Cleveland browns of the NHL.

I did not make this thread.

 

[HisIceness]

Move the franchise somewhere else please

I agree.

Downtown Phoenix or Scottsdale would be terrific.