Should this season just be considered a write off for the Coyotes?

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  1. NetflixandPhil

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    I know there probably not making the playoffs but they have been in my opinion the most injured team BY FAR this year. Do you guys think mgmt should just treat this year as a write off, fire the strength and conditioning staff, and wait for next year where they hopefully hire better trainers to keep this team more durable?
     
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    But they were true contenders based on last year's second half record.
     
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    The Coyotes would have a sick roster if they could use the fountain of youth on all their LTIR players
     
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    Isn't that every year for them?
     
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    Seriously when have the coyotes been relevant
     
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    Analytics show that the Coyotes will be turning a corner.... soon.
     
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    the team is a joke
     
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    To be honest, I don’t even like their roster that much even if they have everyone healthy.
     
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    I dunno Marian Hossa would look good on their top line.

    I think what they need to do is make more weird trades.
     
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    Lucic is healthy
     
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    According to that, Arizona has been only the 9th most injured team this season. That doesn't seem so bad, especially when we're talking about a team that finished with the 3rd fewest points last season and, thus, didn't exactly come into the season as team with a lot of potential. Since they're about where I might've expected them to be, I'm not sure that I'd say that injuries have derailed their season. Besides, four teams (DAL, VAN, NSH and BOS) have been injured more than ARI and still have better records, three even being in playoff positions at the moment.
     
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    They’re injuries are overstated. The only truly devastating one is Raanta and relying on him in the first place was a huge misplay by Chayka.
     
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    That's good information, I counted up all the man games lost and here's where its at as of Jan 4th:
    1.Anaheim 208 (excluding Holzer)
    2.Dallas 198
    3.Ottawa 186 (excluding MacArthur)
    4.LA 184
    5.Arizona 167 (excluding Hossa and Bolland)
    6.Boston 152
    7.Vancouver 151 (excluding Dorsett)
    8.Detroit 136 (excluding Zetterberg and Franzen)
    9.St.Louis 133
    10.Montreal 131
    11.Philadelphia 127
    12.Florida 117 (excluding MacKenzie)
    13.New Jersey 114
    14.Buffalo 107 (excluding Wilson)
    15.Nashville 104
    16.Edmonton 99
    17.Vegas 96 (excluding Clarkson)
    T18.Chicago 94 (excluding Forsling's wrist injury)
    T18.Pittsburgh 94
    20.NY Rangers 87
    21.Calgary 86
    22.Colorado 84
    23.Carolina 82
    24.Washington 77
    25.Tampa Bay 75
    26.NY Islanders 71
    27.Winnipeg 45
    28.Toronto 34 (excluding Horton)
    29.Minnesota 32
    30.Columbus 24
    31.San Jose 22

    Just my opinion, but I find it hard to believe that this is just luck. I would bet that San Jose has a much higher quality strength and conditioning staff than Anaheim does and you can take this back to last year as too as the Sharks were mostly healthy and the Ducks simply weren't.
     
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    Good to note that the site is using cap data rather than actual man games lost. If all players were signed to appropriate contracts this would be an excellent approach, but obviously that is not the case. It is also out of date by a week, but that isn't so much that the Coyotes would move near to the cap impact lost that Anaheim has. Overall you'd have to dig in a little bit to really get the full picture, but it is an interesting snapshot at least, that is a bit more useful than just straight man games lost.

    EDIT: NetflixandPhil compiled the man games lost list and it correlates quite closely with the cap impact. Interesting info for sure.
     
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    Also Arizona has many quality players out...

    Starting goaltender out for season in Raanta
    1st line winger/center out for season in Nick Schmaltz
    2nd line center out for whole season in Christian Dvorak
    Top-4 defenceman out for season in Jason Demers
    Also Grabner, Chychrun and Galchenyuk have missed a good amount of games
     
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    Their whole existence has been a write off and a wash.
     
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    Need a top 5 pick and try to offer sheet Matthews.
     
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    Things would look awfully different for them if they didn't get robbed in the McDavid/Eichel -draft.
     
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    Metroid Never Don't Give Up

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    Looking forward to next year's excuses already
     
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    Do you know of any other 1c star RFAs from Arizona?

    Thanks for contributing to the thread.
     
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    Not really. Maybe if they had a big top line like the Avs or Bruins but they don't. It's a team that's supposed to rely on a 4 line attack and balanced scoring.

    You take away Schmaltz, Dvorak and Grabner and that completely destroys that supposed strength of theirs. Last game Richardson, Cousins and Garland were playing top 9..

    Throw in Raanta and Demers injuries and it just gets worse.

    Sure, if they were a strong team to begin with, they could deal with these injuries better. But they're not, so they need at least close to their best possible lineup to compete for the playoffs. And sadly we haven't seen it this season.

    It's like, where would the Habs be without Price, Danault, Tatar, Byron and Benn all out at the same time.

    It's funny in a way, Coyotes are starting to feel like the Blue Jackets before 16/17.

    Jackets were getting better and had a strong finish to the season in 14/15 with a 16-3-1 record in their last 20 games. Then when everyone expected them to push for a playoff spot in 15/16 they had a bad start and Bobrovsky ended up missing more than half a season. That's where people started to write them off again until they broke out in 16/17.

    I wouldn't be surprised to see people write the Yotes off after a season like this only to see them catch everyone by surprise next year. There's a lot of similarities between them and Columbus. Pretty good defense, capable goalie, balanced offense without any big stars.
     
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    Move the franchise somewhere else please
     
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