Should the NHL get rid of NMC’s?

[Machinehead]

Because players having more power and control ( i.e not getting shafted) means teams having less options to trade and improve and most fans spend time pondering how their own team would be better if rule a or rule b didn't exist. Either way, I don't see the NHLPA giving up anything without some sort of return from the owners.

Getting rid of the salary cap structure would shaft the owners and give teams a lot more options.

 

[Altimus]

screw those players that want to keep their family rooted in one location for the duration of their contract. Move those bums every 3 years.

 

[deckercky]

Not a bad idea, considering contracts are guaranteed and getting rid of a bad one is practically impossible without the NMCs as standard buyouts are a massive hindrance.

I think they should just soften the impact of buyouts, tbh.

 

[Matty Sundin]

It’s not worth a lockout. A GM also doesn’t have to hand those out. A see maybe a star player getting it but theirs so many players that probably don’t even deserve it that get it nowadays.

 

[Siludin]

We are talking about NMC not NTC. Basically the difference is a a NTC you can still put a player on waivers and send them to the AHL if he sucks a NMC you can't. As I said if I was part of the 95% I would be more then willing to sacrifice the NMC for some small concession(say like a raise in the minimum salary)

Who cares though
A player with a NMC and a player with a NTC still gets paid their yearly wage if they are benched. It just consumes a roster spot.
This is more about player livelihood stability than money imo. That's why the NHLPA wouldn't budge on it - the players get paid either way but the value of geographical stability for one's children is sometimes something money can't buy. This is why NTCs and NMCs are usually a bigger sticking point for veteran players who are more likely to have children of school age.

 

[boredmale]

Who cares though
A player with a NMC and a player with a NTC still gets paid their yearly wage if they are benched. It just consumes a roster spot.
This is more about player livelihood stability than money imo. That's why the NHLPA wouldn't budge on it - the players get paid either way but the value of geographical stability for one's children is sometimes something money can't buy. This is why NTCs and NMCs are usually a bigger sticking point for veteran players who are more likely to have children of school age.

Once again playing the 5% vs 95% card, how many in that 95% range get NMCs? To me getting rid of the NMC(but not the NTC) is a way to still give teams a way to get rid of that player(even if it only saves them 1M dollars in payroll). It also gives them some roster flexibility say if they already have their 23 man roster set and don't want to lose a player on waivers in that 23 man group.

 

[bobholly39]

Yeah the issue here is NHLPA would never go for it. If I had to guess, NMC is an absolute huge benefit for players, it's not something they'd give up on easily

In theory would fans prefer this concept? Sure, I think so. I would too. But it would never happen

 

[DingDongCharlie]

screw those players that want to keep their family rooted in one location for the duration of their contract. Move those bums every 3 years.

Mike Sillinger doesn’t approve. He has to protect his title

 

[BigEezyE22]

How many players get NMCs? Maybe 5%. If this is a 95% vs 5% issue does it really need a a big concession, it just needs one that panders to the 95%

If it's only 5% is it something that needs addressed by CBA change or do GMs just need to be more careful?

 

[BigEezyE22]

What I'd like to see is ability to retain cap for partial term on a player...for example, $6m player has 3 years left, trading team can retain for 2 years and receiving team takes full hit last year of contract. All it becomes is added flexibility.

 

[Voight]

Players who have NMC typically earned them and I don't have an issue with them. Yes, NMC prevent teams from waiving guys but they are usually given to guys that you wouldn't risk putting on waivers in a million years.

Stamkos and Kucherov for example took less money to stay in Tampa and got NMC's as a reward.... i.e. they can spend the rest of their career there if they want to without risk of being moved out of the blue. Likewise with Bergeron + Marchand.

 

[Ice Mammoth]

My sympathies are with the leadership of the league.
The 27/7 rule - hurts the NHL. The benefits of draft picks continue to diminish.
Player contract AAV (RFA) - not very different from player contract AAV (UFA).
The league leadership must take the toughest possible bargaining position.
It is advisable to split the players into opposing groups.

Objectives:
1. Ensure that ELC do not count towards the 27/7 rule.
2. Make it as easy as possible for GM to negotiate with RFA players.
3. Do not take into account the amount of players' contracts (including those with NMC) in the salary ceiling (if the hockey player has not played (for any reason) for more than three months). An analogue of LTIR is needed.

Many more sentences can be written. Explaining them in detail. But this is not required.

 

[Outl4w]

9 players on the Lighting have some form of NMC/NTC.

So you want to punish the players for taking a discount but also ensuring they stay on a winning team ?

 

[Islay1989]

You threw around clauses to get players to sign for less and are now in trouble because you can't move said players over something that benefited you initially? I say, get f***ed, you reap what you sow.

 

[DieSendungmitderMaus]

Should the NHLPA get rid of the salary cap?

 

[Empoleon8771]

Why is it always the players getting shafted on here?

Because fans only look at it through the perspective of their team's salary cap. Completely narrow minded.

Every time I see suggestions of "let's get rid of the salary cap" or "let's get rid of NTCs", it really reminds me of how disconnected most NHL fans are with how the league actually works

 

[Sun God Nika]

screw those players that want to keep their family rooted in one location for the duration of their contract. Move those bums every 3 years.

They making millions of dollars playing a sport there family can live wherever the f*** they want in the world. Players have their rights to negotiate contracts and NTC/NMCs. But please dont try and create sympathy for them.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

Why is it always the players getting shafted on here?

Because people are generally fans of hockey teams before hockey players, and they want their team to succeed as the 1st priority.

 

[Man Bear Pig]

Harold Ballard gets fiber optic internet in Hell and likes this post.

Pfft Ballard was way too cheap for fibre. He's a dial-up man all the way...to the grave.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

Pfft Ballard was way too cheap for fibre. He's a dial-up man all the way...to the grave.

I didn't say he pays for fiber optic internet.

 

[Melrose Munch]

Getting rid of the salary cap structure would shaft the owners and give teams a lot more options.

It would not if there was some other form of cost certainty i.e. a large TV contract.

 

[SI90]

More trades would happen and garbage contracts would be movable. Also, eight years contracts are too long, six should be the max.

Just tell us who on your favorite team to you want to get rid of.

 

[Calad]

I think they should just soften the impact of buyouts, tbh.

For sure. Guaratneed contracts + salary cap = very few trades/player movement. Making the buyouts easier to swallow would open things up a bunch, maybe 1/2 over twice the life instead of 2/3, but the money can still be 2/3s.

 

[deckercky]

For sure. Guaratneed contracts + salary cap = very few trades/player movement. Making the buyouts easier to swallow would open things up a bunch, maybe 1/2 over twice the life instead of 2/3, but the money can still be 2/3s.

Whatever it is, buyouts should provide more relief than burying.

 

[Unspecified]

More trades would happen and garbage contracts would be movable. Also, eight years contracts are too long, six should be the max.

Garbage contracts IMO should NEVER leave the team that signed them in the first place.