News Article: Should the Blackhawks drop the emblamatic Indianhead due to the times we are living in?

[Malagahawks]

Without getting political or being insensitive what are the board's thoughts?

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[x Tame Impala]

No

The name and logo is commemorative. Unlike the Redskins (racial slur) or the Cleveland Indians (racist caricature of a red-skinned, cartoon, smiley Native).

 

[Kaners Bald Spot]

It's not my choice to make. If indigenous people find it offensive it's not my place to argue.

 

[JaegerDice]

Once upon a time I would have been strongly against changing the logo, and I'd have come up with any excuse or rationalization you could think of to defend it.

Now?

Meh.

It's a logo. It's a brand. Corporations are not people.

If it honestly upsets people, then change it.

 

[x Tame Impala]

After reading that very long article, I don’t think many people are actually that upset. The Hawks could and should do more to raise awareness about Native history in the Midwest though. I feel that’s a fair asking price for a team to be worth almost a billion dollars while using native imagery for their brand.

 

[hawksfan50]

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It boggles the mind that yes a White military brigade used the name of anI dian Chief as their symbol and the hickey team took it from that prior use "nickname" and symbol.


But still on a values basiscitbis night and day..It honours Indian heritage and history ..not anythibgblijeca "Cobfederate" taint .
Peopkecdl not think at all whe pulingvom to virtue signaling to please the current fashion or to please the mob mentality.

 

[Rick C137]

After reading that very long article, I don’t think many people are actually that upset. The Hawks could and should do more to raise awareness about Native history in the Midwest though. I feel that’s a fair asking price for a team to be worth almost a billion dollars while using native imagery for their brand.

I haven’t read the article but that’s kind of what I thought. I also feel like the only people I’ve ever seen have any pushback on the logo are other white people. For the same reasons I don’t think it’s my place to decide if the logo is racist and should go... it’s not theirs either. Like Boquy said, if indigenous people are upset about it I would for sure be open to changing it even though I love the name and logo. I’ve just never actually heard that to be the case.

 

[Mrfenn92]

That's a no from me.

 

[The Worst One]

Hard no. Stop being sensitive.

 

[Kevin Musto]

It's not my choice to make. If indigenous people find it offensive it's not my place to argue.

This is exactly how I feel. I'd love to hold onto the logo because I think it's a great design, but if it offends people and it has to go, so be it.

If it had to change I would like to keep these as the primary and secondary logos as long as they too are not considered to be offensive.

 

[Malaka]

Against it, simply because it is spurred by recent ideological agendas and supports exclusivity of diverse cultures we should instead be celebrating.

Hockey has its roots in Native American culture from what I understand, we should support them in hockey further IMO as the Blackhawks are already doing on with youths and on the west and south side.

All I know is the answer is not to divide & separate from one another.

A tangent but relevant, people on reddit want to tear down the statue of Bobby Hull and denounce him from the organization. This is a ridiculous time we’re living in.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

I live in an area where there is a fairly large Native American population. And a lot of them wear Blackhawks gear. So I don’t get the feeling that they’re all that offended, if anything they’re proud.

Like others have said, if Native Americans are that upset about it, then do what you have to do. But if it’s a bunch of white people who have nothing better to do than make a fuss about literally anything, then piss off.

 

[ChiHawks10]

We've been over this a hundred times on here before. The name Blackhawks, for one, is a military reference. The logo is not a racist depiction or anything of that nature. No one has ever considered it offensive, Natives included. Leave it as is.

 

[hawksrule]

I haven’t read the article, but my understanding from the other billion times this has been brought up is that the Native American community as a whole does not find the logo offensive.

 

[GaryU]

I haven’t read the article, but my understanding from the other billion times this has been brought up is that the Native American community as a whole does not find the logo offensive.

My wife is Sioux Indian. Hates Redskins, doesn't find Hawks logo at all offensive (knows the story behind it)

 

[No Fun Shogun]

Nah.

That being said, the idiots that show up to games in full Native American regalia need to stop doing that twenty years ago.

 

[Styles]

No.

 

[Enyaw]

No ......nuff said

 

[LavalPhantom]

No,

 

[Any Colour You Like]

I think I come down pretty much where the article is: you don't have to change the logo, but if you choose to keep it you have to accept the responsibility that comes along with it. Educate people about the history of indigenous peoples in the Midwest, amplify indigenous voices, support native causes, charities, and communities.

The logo is iconic and gorgeous, and I think something is lost without it (but I'm not indigenous, so whether or not they should keep it is ultimately not my call). But at the same time, given half a millennium's worth of repression and genocide against indigenous people on this continent, use that logo and that image with humility, reverence, and acceptance of the responsibility it carries.

 

[Pez68]

How many times does this discussion need to take place??? No.

 

[Bubba88]

No... it's a good presentation and is respectful - not like Cleveland or the Redskins.

 

[BobbyJet]

No.

 

[Salvaged Ship]

Greatest logo in sports in my opinion.

 

[TLEH]

It’s just a bunch of rich white people doing guilt yoga and changing all these things. If the indigenous people want it changed. I’m all for it. We should be focusing on changing things like healthcare and supporting education in poorer neighborhoods. Instead we focus on changing this shit. It’s annoying.