CHGoalie27
Don't blame the goalie!
It's not the hockey sense, it's whether or not he uses it on a given night.
He's the new Kulikov.
Should Boughner stay or go?
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He's the new Kulikov.
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Kulikov although a ghost offensively was much better in his own end, even considering the epic cough up.
CHGoalie27
Don't blame the goalie!
OK He's like reverse* Kulikov
Kulikov, when he wanted to, was great offensively. Matheson, when he wants to, is great defensively.
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MintyFresh88
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Next season will be year 3 of his 4 year contract, correct?
Hate to say it, but I think he'll get his shot with a slightly revamped roster next season. I wouldn't retain him, but I think this is the direction they will take.
Hate to say it, but I think he'll get his shot with a slightly revamped roster next season. I wouldn't retain him, but I think this is the direction they will take.
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Maybe it'll be one of those short-leash situations where if we get off to yet another slow start he gets fired early. I'd much rather replace him over the summer if we're iffy on him. That way, we won't be left settling for whatever coaches are left (or, I shudder to think, finishing the season with interim head coach Capuano.)
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This thread is going to be great reading when we win the Stanley Cup next season with Bob at the helm 
It was. Minus that stretch Bob has been nothing short of garbage in his tenure here
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Those saying MSD is what caused the better play....maybe they played better after it. But that wasnt the start.
You'd be incorrect in saying that was the beginning. The team started percolating around Christmas time and yes, they improved after Vancouver.
You'd be incorrect in saying that was the beginning. The team started percolating around Christmas time and yes, they improved after Vancouver.
Nailed it.
I’ve been negative on DT, but between him and Boog, if I could only get rid of one, Boog would have his Uber ride ready as soon as I could fire up my app.
If Q is available and interested you pull the trigger. We should have asked Trotz over the summer to get a feel.
An organization should always look to get better. I know loyalty is a huge thing but if you have a chance to upgrade your team you do it.
An organization should always look to get better. I know loyalty is a huge thing but if you have a chance to upgrade your team you do it.
This thread is going to be great reading when we win the Stanley Cup next season with Bob at the helm
Not a chance with him behind the bench. We have a better shot with no coach. What odds do you want with him coaching....
100% look at us in the past 2 games. We have not practiced......
Shows you everything about our coach.
I seriously hope not... I mine as well by my Vegas jersey now then. 3 years with the talent we have and he has done very sub par. Id rather him get fired and hire the assistant head coach.
I am starting to think more and more our roster is not the problem at all but management of the roster. Seems like bujgstand and McCann have settled in quite quickly and done well.
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Sure but what he does have control over is how the team plays. We all know the goalies suck. So why not play a more defensive oriented game?
We have, based on those high danger chances stats, a slightly below average team defensively. So either boog is choosing to employ the same strategy and not focusing on defense even though he knows the goalies suck. Or he IS trying to focus on defense but still can't get the team to be above average in that area. I'm not sure which is worse, but both are bad.
Unfortunately I think with the money situation, we're going to get boog back again. Can't see the others paying for boog's contract and a high price guy like coach q. Would love to be wrong.
I don't think boog is the worst we've had, that title would belong to rowe. He's probably better than what sutter, dineen sand the coaches that only coaches a few dozen games with us. But does he elevate this team? I don't think so.
If like others have said, if there is no significant upgrade, then fine we keep him. But if coach q is willing to come here, we did be doing everything we can to bring him in.
You haven’t been paying attention. There is no defensive system that can eliminate scoring chances and help the goalies. The team
Has played lights out d for long stretches and still got scored on at will. We r also second worst in the league(only Ottawa) in low danger scoring chance save %. Meaning it doesn’t matter where the shots r coming from or how the defense plays the goalies were aweful. This belief that if we played a defensive system we would be better is simply not true with the goaltending we have received this year
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Right, the only one who pays attention is you. Why even have a discussion when you're the only one who knows anything around here?
Fact is, boog has not gotten this team to tighten up defensively when he knows this team's goaltending sucks. Whether that is by design or by incompetence doesn't really matter. That's just the reality.
You can argue till you're blue in the face about how everything is on the goaltending, you'll still be wrong as you usually are.
Again you haven’t been paying attention. They have tightened up defensively for long stretches and let me say this for you again. IT DID NOT MATTER. The puck still went in from all over the ice. Period.
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no you're missing the point as usual. I'm evaluating boughner as a head coach, you're evaluating him as a goaltending coach. There have not been many instances this team has tightened up defensively and it sure doesn't show up in the advanced stats you cite to try and back up your claim. The goalies have nothing to do with this team being below average defensively.
The goalies very much have to do with the d. When the team holds an elite team
Like Boston to 8 chances in a game that is
Lockdown defense period. When they hold a team to 3 shots in a period that is elite defense. When the puck is filling our net even while we play elite defense for stretches than it doesn’t really matter who coaches. Again for the millionth time there isn’t a coach or system that helps with our 2nd league worst (only to Ottawa) low danger save percentage. That is all on goaltending. When the defense Infront of said goalie is scared shitless to give up a shot from any area on the ice because he k owns it’s going in there is no chance to play consistent quality hockey. That’s cut and dry. Black and white
Do you think islanders or
Carolina are well coached? Because they have given up more high danger scoring chances against 5 on5 than we have.
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