Post-Game Talk: Shot at the Smiths causes first home loss

[Soundwave]

How did we get bopped by this awful Florida team....

They have points in 7 straight games, they are not that bad and Bobrosvsky wasn't going to play at .850 forever.

How people still believe this dumb "how can you lose to team X/Y/Z" schtick in the modern NHL is actually a bigger surprise to me.

Don't come ready to play and you can lose to anyone, any time, any where.

 

[MaxR11]

Being able to perform after/during:

Having a bad dinner, bad flight, with a cold, having a few beers the night before, having a bad night of sleep, touch of diaherhea, general pain, family problems, girlfriend issues, being drained from puck bunnies/strippers/ladies of the road/various sexual conquests ...

Is quite frankly all part of being a top level athlete.

You deal with that **** and perform anyway. If you think every team that plays the Oilers are all boy scouts who just ate milk n' cookies all week leading into their games against the Oilers you're kidding yourself.

Being able to hold down a few freaking beers and enjoy yourself while being ready to go 36 hours later is part of being a pro athlete.

there are things you can't control like illness, family problems etc. You do what you can to control things that you. Why would any pro athlete put himself at even the slightest disadvantage when this is a game of milliseconds being quicker to the puck. milliseconds being able to process quickly enough the play in front of you, having just that extra bit of gas left in the tank etc etc.

no doubt some players hinder themselves with a bit too much drinking and sexcapades but no, that's not part of being a good professional. there's a reason why some players overachieve their potential and others underachieve. just because a star player can get away with it it doesn't mean he couldn't have been even better and more consistently better for his team if he didn't do those things.

you can go have your brewskies and ladies and stay up late now and then but it WILL definitely affect you in days to come. you can try to "perform anyway" but you'll still not be as fresh and as ready as you would have been if you didn't do such things. If you think it's ok to reduce your chances and ability to get 2 points in the standings here and there for the sake of "living life to the fullest" than sure. that's fine.

 

[ToeMcDrag83]

They have points in 7 straight games, they are not that bad and Bobrosvsky wasn't going to play at .850 forever.

How people still believe this dumb "how can you lose to team X/Y/Z" schtick in the modern NHL is actually a bigger surprise to me.

Don't come ready to play and you can lose to anyone, any time, any where.

Our regulation losses are to CHI, MIN, and FLA. "Weaker" teams.
No such thing as an easy game, you have to be ready to impose your own game plan from puck drop whether it's the Lightning or the Red Wings.

 

[McFlash97]

It's so depressing watching the Canucks absolutely dismantle the Panthers apart with depth and speed...then you have the Oilers ....

 

[Not Canada Drai]

They have points in 7 straight games, they are not that bad and Bobrosvsky wasn't going to play at .850 forever.

How people still believe this dumb "how can you lose to team X/Y/Z" schtick in the modern NHL is actually a bigger surprise to me.

Don't come ready to play and you can lose to anyone, any time, any where.

True, but it's unfortunate that every other team is caving them in while we got caved ourselves.

 

[McFlash97]

They have points in 7 straight games, they are not that bad and Bobrosvsky wasn't going to play at .850 forever.

How people still believe this dumb "how can you lose to team X/Y/Z" schtick in the modern NHL is actually a bigger surprise to me.

Don't come ready to play and you can lose to anyone, any time, any where.

You have a point but... the Oilers are putrid outside of 5 or 6 players.

Look at what the Canucks are doing so the Panthers today.

The Oilers run is unsustainable. If 29 or 97 go dry the Oilers are the worst team in hockey.

 

[MessierII]

True, but it's unfortunate that every other team is caving them in while we got caved ourselves.

Calgary squeaked by them in a shootout.

 

[I am the Liquor]

You have a point but... the Oilers are putrid outside of 5 or 6 players.

Look at what the Canucks are doing so the Panthers today.

The Oilers run is unsustainable. If 29 or 97 go dry the Oilers are the worst team in hockey.

It’s not that bad...the goalies are playing well, Ethan Bear has been lights out and James Neal has TEN goals.....

Nuge and the bottom six have been offensive black holes. If they can start to contribute, things will be much better....

 

[I am the Liquor]

It's so depressing watching the Canucks absolutely dismantle the Panthers apart with depth and speed...then you have the Oilers ....

Vancouver has a good young team. Them doing well shouldn’t be a surprise to anyone. In fact they are going to be much better than Calgary going forward.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

It's so depressing watching the Canucks absolutely dismantle the Panthers apart with depth and speed...then you have the Oilers ....

 

[OfCorsiDid]

You have a point but... the Oilers are putrid outside of 5 or 6 players.

Look at what the Canucks are doing so the Panthers today.

The Oilers run is unsustainable. If 29 or 97 go dry the Oilers are the worst team in hockey.

Uh have you seen the Ducks, Sens, and Red Wings bottom 6? Or the Kings and Wild?

Out of all those teams and all those players the only legitimate NHLers are Sam Steel, Kevin Fiala, Mikko Koivu, Connor Brown and J-G Pageau.

This was a group of 30 players and only 5 of them are legitimate NHLers, the rest are AHL/ECHL trash.

We have a long way to go before we're the worst.

 

[OfCorsiDid]

Bobrovsky plays one of his best games of the year against us then Canucks get the backup who can’t stop a beach ball. 3-0 nucks not even 10 min in.

Yeah who is that backup anyways?

Never even heard of that guy, would've thought the Panthers would've went out and at least got a semi-decent back-up for Bob.

It's not like there was limited options on the market this year.

 

[MessierII]

Yeah who is that backup anyways?

Never even heard of that guy, would've thought the Panthers would've went out and at least got a semi-decent back-up for Bob.

It's not like there was limited options on the market this year.

To be honest I’ve never heard of him either. I agree it’s odd.

 

[Oilers Propagandist]

They are people, not machines. You can’t train 24/7 365 days a year or you will break down. Rest and relaxation (both physical and mental) are important. Hockey players don’t or shouldn’t party? Holy cow, Guy Lafluer used to smoke between periods.... if only Hk97 was there back in the day to stop it and get Guy turned around in the right direction......

When my dad immigrated here he was exposed to the partying and winning lol. Got him acclimised to Edmonton quick.

 

[Oilers Propagandist]

It's incremental differences that make a lot of differences in today's parity. Just because the regular joe can go on a bender and not have it affect them much even 2-3 days later doesn't mean squat. it definitely has some lingering effects on a highly trained pro athlete competing at the highest level. Even if it's only 5-10% decrease in performance and energy states it's a massive difference (you can feel just that bit less pop in the step, that bit less endurance and sturdiness on your skates... and if your opponent feels fresh and their legs feel poppy, that's a huge advantage). A regular beer league joe blow wont notice much difference which is why they say all this stuff is just an excuse.

Lol, who cares mate. This is ridiculous, I’m out of this bitch.

 

[LaGu]

This is false. Someone here posted some advanced stats showing Nuge actually dragged down McDavid.

What does drag down mean?

If you are doing a with and without it is a bit disingenuous since McDavid without RNH was with Draisaitl, and no one is trying to even remotely claim that RNH is a better winger than Draisaitl. Last year stats looked pretty bad all over tbh. I would not be against trying RNH again on McDavid's wing, or maybe on Draisaitl's wing. At some point I think McDrai will be split to "spread the wealth", but it is not time yet. Despite everything I've read the last day or so we're still #1 in the Pacific.

 

[LaGu]

Nuge has Lucic numbers yet he plays 2nd line and is gifted pp time. He’s soft and has no heart. If he thinks he’s worth a raise on his next contract he’s a dreamer.. btw, Principe sucks, act like a man not some childish doofus.

50 pts pace is Lucic numbers??

Maybe it was when Lucic commanded $6M per year (and was offered even more by another team).

 

[Soundwave]

there are things you can't control like illness, family problems etc. You do what you can to control things that you. Why would any pro athlete put himself at even the slightest disadvantage when this is a game of milliseconds being quicker to the puck. milliseconds being able to process quickly enough the play in front of you, having just that extra bit of gas left in the tank etc etc.

no doubt some players hinder themselves with a bit too much drinking and sexcapades but no, that's not part of being a good professional. there's a reason why some players overachieve their potential and others underachieve. just because a star player can get away with it it doesn't mean he couldn't have been even better and more consistently better for his team if he didn't do those things.

you can go have your brewskies and ladies and stay up late now and then but it WILL definitely affect you in days to come. you can try to "perform anyway" but you'll still not be as fresh and as ready as you would have been if you didn't do such things. If you think it's ok to reduce your chances and ability to get 2 points in the standings here and there for the sake of "living life to the fullest" than sure. that's fine.

Most athletes do it.

Blowing off some steam and having some fun and getting your dick wet, quite frankly is part and parcel of the job.

Tiger Woods won major after major after major after major f***ing every Hooters waitress. Quite frankly, he never should have stopped, lol.

80s Oilers partied more than their share. 2006 Oilers had guys who indulged in a lot of "extra circulars" too.

Here's Mark Messier having a nutrious beverage ... oh wait a beer, after a hockey game

Kane and Toews getting shit faced.

If you can't recover from a few drinks in your mid-20s at 190-200+ pounds with over 36 hours rest, you're probably not cut out to be a pro athletes. Pro athletes operate at an energy level that "joe public" isn't close to, their body can deal with some partying.

 

[Soundwave]

It's so depressing watching the Canucks absolutely dismantle the Panthers apart with depth and speed...then you have the Oilers ....

The Canucks also lost to the Oilers and got shut out by the Flames. You can't really use that metric for anything. The Caps whupped the Flames and embarrassed the Canucks by coming back from 1-5 but got beat by the Oilers.

 

[TheNumber4]

It's so depressing watching the Canucks absolutely dismantle the Panthers apart with depth and speed...then you have the Oilers ....

Canucks were the better team in their loss to us for the most part. That team is good. Has always had the work ethic, now they have speed and skill.

More depressing is we've watched them go from Sedins into a rebuild and back out... and were still figuring it out. Hughes was a HUGE get for them, that in itself speeds their rebuild to a point ours has never gotten to.

 

[Soundwave]

Canucks were the better team in their loss to us for the most part. That team is good. Has always had the work ethic, now they have speed and skill.

More depressing is we've watched them go from Sedins into a rebuild and back out... and were still figuring it out. Hughes was a HUGE get for them, that in itself speeds their rebuild to a point ours has never gotten to.

The difference between any two NHL teams really honestly isn't that much.

It was kind of the whole point of the salary cap.

 

[MaxR11]

Most athletes do it.

Blowing off some steam and having some fun and getting your dick wet, quite frankly is part and parcel of the job.

Tiger Woods won major after major after major after major ****ing every Hooters waitress. Quite frankly, he never should have stopped, lol.

80s Oilers partied more than their share. 2006 Oilers had guys who indulged in a lot of "extra circulars" too.

Here's Mark Messier having a nutrious beverage ... oh wait a beer, after a hockey game

Kane and Toews getting **** faced.

If you can't recover from a few drinks in your mid-20s at 190-200+ pounds with over 36 hours rest, you're probably not cut out to be a pro athletes. Pro athletes operate at an energy level that "joe public" isn't close to, their body can deal with some partying.

dude you do realize all those pics you showed are AFTER the season, IN THE SUMMER, after a cup win. ridiculous examples. again the 80s were different. also even if some athletes do it once in a while IN season, it's not right and will affect their play. this is why i think it's becoming more and more of a myth and more of a rare thing in season. Players, coaches and organizations are becoming wise to the sport science. Only dinosaurs like you think this still happens regularly in season. I think it's less of an occurance now and those who still endulge suffer the consequences. again, if you think teams can afford to lower their chances of collecting 2 points, even if it's once or twice a season, well then, party on. don't bi*ch and wh*ne when your team missed the playoffs by 2 points.

lol, in your eyes, part of the job description is getting d*** wet and having brewskies now and then. mine is trying to rest and recover your body the best they can. can you see how ridiculous you sound? it's not the 80s or 90s anymore. again, it's incremental differences. i never said they'd still be hung over or feeling woozy. but guaranteed more often than not they'll be at a bit of a lesser state than if they hadn't indulged. they play and practice and train at a high level. they need every minute they can afterwards to recover from the games and training. drinking and going out late interferes with that!

more and more you're hearing players go do tame and relaxing things during christmas and all star breaks. they say they're relaxing (going fishing, recovering the body etc). players, at least the smart ones know about this now. it's just you and a few DUUUDES and BROOOOs here that think the debauchery still happens at a regular occurance.

 

[MaxR11]

Lol, who cares mate. This is ridiculous, I’m out of this *****.
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As an Oilers fan I care. I want them to be as ready as possible for all 82 games and as close to 100% as possible to collect as many of those 2 points as possible.

In season these boys are "at work" 24/7 because part of their job is recovering and resting and maintaining their bodies and minds as well as possible. Sleeping well is part of the job description. Sure they have "coffee breaks and "lunch breaks" and they can absolutely go have fun (quick nine holes of golf, dinner party, a little video games, escape rooms etc etc). But do it responsibly with rest and recovery in mind. Sorry you get paid millions and part of the job is taking care of the body the best you can. Suck it up. Apologies if i have high standards for my hockey players.

 

[I am the Liquor]

Most athletes do it.

Blowing off some steam and having some fun and getting your dick wet, quite frankly is part and parcel of the job.

Tiger Woods won major after major after major after major ****ing every Hooters waitress. Quite frankly, he never should have stopped, lol.

80s Oilers partied more than their share. 2006 Oilers had guys who indulged in a lot of "extra circulars" too.

Here's Mark Messier having a nutrious beverage ... oh wait a beer, after a hockey game

Kane and Toews getting **** faced.

If you can't recover from a few drinks in your mid-20s at 190-200+ pounds with over 36 hours rest, you're probably not cut out to be a pro athletes. Pro athletes operate at an energy level that "joe public" isn't close to, their body can deal with some partying.

you can’t fix stupid

 

[CycloneSweep]

Sounds like Khaira promoted to the second line tonight.....my god