Don't you understand that the salary cap is there to protect small market teams like Nashville? Same as restricted free agency. Maybe Nashville couldn't afford to pay him those years that they were struggling. Sure he was underpaid those first few years but then his salary rose from 4.5 mil to 7.5 mil. Maybe they thought he was worth that much.
They never lost their pick. They were supposed to but the NHL reversed that.
Still.You should really look into the history of offer sheets and see how many get matched. I can't link it but it's on wiki
Here's a hint: almost all of them
Can't wait to see Weber with this group of players!
Weber signed a huge offer from Philly because he wanted out and never thought NSH would match. He really forced them into a corner. If you want me, pay me this insane cash. If not, I'm going to Philly.
There is no way a team would sign a player to a deal they think their team would match, it's completely pointless for them to do that.
Still.
BB had made it public that he would match any offer sheet made to Dustin Penner back when he was a Duck. Kevin Lowe still signed him to one.
You sign players to a deal you think the other team will have issues matching. If ever they do, they will be in a tough spot. If they don't, you get the player.
There is always a possibility a team matches, and as you said, they vastly do.
How do you see him fit with the new system? Will he be fast enough, either with foot speed and passing/transition game ? His PP shot will help us for sure.
Here was your post btw
To which I told you almost every single offer sheet in history has been matched, to which you replied with
I honestly don't even get the point you're trying to make anymore...you literally just defined the word 'backtracking' and also went against your original post.
I feel like HF members admitting they're wrong is the equivalent of suicide, so they opt to spin webs instead.
Your main argument was that no team gives offer sheets that they think will be matched, implying Philly helped Weber screw over Nashville for god knows what reason.
Well that is the problem here. Your approach to discussion is ''who's right or wrong''. It's childish.
I mean...wtf?
There is no backtrack, had I said teams do not match offer sheets, and then you showed that they do, then yes, that would have made me wrong.
Now, if you want to say I was wrong that ''Weber never thought NSH would match'' then fine, I have no problem admitting that, if you can show that Weber did think NSH would possibly match.
But you are nitpicking on unimportant details that matter very little when looking at the overall point of a post.
The point was offer sheets are signed by players that want their fair share. Either pay them what others are willing to go to, or let them leave.
But clearly you have no intention on arguing anything here and are playing this childish right or wrong game.
Poile kept saying he would match any offer sheet coming his way, and he did. Of course Weber knew that, he's not stupid. The team had just lost Suter for nothing.
I'm not playing a right or wrong game. What I'd like is for you to use facts instead of opinions when you're making a statement, is that too much to ask?
I don’t worry about Weber’s offence. He can match subbans numbers but probably not the assists . With petry, we have this hole filled anyway
I just find his physical play and d play has decreased badly in quality
I thought we would get someone elite defensively too
This is a discussion board, 99% of the content here is opinion based. If you have a problem with that then I have no idea what you are doing here.
There are three parties involved when signing an offer sheet:
1- The current team
2- The player
3- The new potential team
Now, show me the fact that states the why the new team would sign an offer sheet to a player despite knowing it would be matched.
Why did Philly sign Weber to an offer sheet when Poile made it clear he was going to sign him?
Because Poile was cornered. There was no room to negotiate. Either you match this huge offer that Weber negotiated with another team, or you let him go and take the picks.So what fact did you want me to show you? As go your last question, idk why Philly tried signing him, maybe Holmgrem wanted to call his bluff or he's dumb as a bag of bricks? I really don't know I wasn't in his head at the time.
I'd like to point out all this stemmed this stemmed from you saying Weber cornered and forced the preds into his current contract. As far as I know, Poile acted on free will. So while I enjoy you spinning webs, can we get back to my original question that asked you why you would say he forced Nashville's hand
Because Poile was cornered. There was no room to negotiate. Either you match this huge offer that Weber negotiated with another team, or you let him go and take the picks.
Not sure what's difficult for you to understand.
And I'm sure Philly negotiated the deal they fully believed Nsh would match...Maybe they were hired by Poile to handle the negotiation for him, genius this Poile! Ya, Holgrem called the bluff, and he made sure to put the odds on his side by signing him to a huge deal he felt he could get away with.
And yes, nobody put a gun to Poile's head...you're right..Great point mate.
I mean...did you think I was being literal when I said he had ''no choice and was forced''? lollSo not that we've finally established that Poile did in fact exercise free right and was not forced by Weber to act on the offer sheet, let's move onto the next step.
No, you would be wrong. Weber wanted to cash in and exercised his right to sign an offer sheet. It's part of the rules, so no, I don't think he was selfish.Would I be correct in assuming you are essentially saying Weber is selfish because he wanted what he thinks he was worth and he was only getting it from Philly so he signed with them? Explain me the logic of how Weber comes off as selfish here. He doesn't owe Nashville anything beyond his contract (which he played out)
Don't you think the onus is on Nashville to offer a market value contract that Weber deems acceptable? All players deserve to get what they're worth, especially in a physically demanding sport like this.
No, you would be wrong. Weber wanted to cash in and exercised his right to sign an offer sheet. It's part of the rules, so no, I don't think he was selfish.