I'm sorry but what the f*** makes you an expert in judging writing?Why is it that all the "usual suspects" ie. the Fandom Menace channels like Geeks+Grifters, The Quarterpoundering or Nerfrotic are always saying Marvel shows or movies that have female characters in major roles are always saying it's "poorly written"? If they were so good at analyzing writing, they'd a) be doing it themselves or b) working major trade as critics?
Thanks for a sensible answer - a rare thing around here. I think the 'dumb female' angle is played out as part of the "wake the f*** up people" pseudo-feminist discourse (ex: the first lady lawyer interviewed at the gala, who gets washed out by the second more grounded answer). As for her dependency to finding the right one, I get what you're saying, but I feel it's really a huge part of the show - again with her reaction to her night with Daredevil.
I never proposed I was an expert (at anything), but : University certificate in screenwriting, masters degree in film studies, Phd in semiotics, have been a movie critic for a few years and taught University level film studies for a few more. Again, not claiming it makes me an expert at anything, but it certainly gave me a baggage in movies that most of your nerds channels don't have. I don't think I have anything against narrative vehicles angled at female perspectives or characters, on the contrary, but this particular show does IMO a terrible job at pretty much everything. Now, considering that you think every major Marvel project is absolutely brilliant in your view, what makes you think your critical ability should be trusted?
Yeah, I'm pretty far from a Marvel fanboy. I've been pretty critical of most MCU releases.
) "I see what you did there". I understand if not everyone appreciates that, but I think it's at the very least quite clever.
I might be too naive to understand exactly what you mean by "pseudo-feminism", but to me it came across as simply different experiences and/or attitudes from different people. To me they seem to be showing a lot of real problems with blown up proportions in comedic fashion.
In terms of the relationship thing, I guess we'll see where they take it and how her character evolves. I will say that it resonated with me.
While I certainly don't have your credentials, I don't think I agree that the writing is "terrible"
Dialogue can be hit or miss, and the plotlines might be a touch basic. However, where I think the writing actually shines is in the "meta" side. There's quite a few instances of self-awareness in the writing that make you go (and I have, several times in this thread
I couldn't tell you if this is a special thing or whether it exists all over media (as I said I don't watch very much), but for me this sort of thing caught me a little by surprise in a good way. Granted it took a little bit of warming up to, but something tells me that was at least somewhat intentional.
That combined with the increased momentum of the latter half have turned the tables for me.
And while I know this isn't technically part of the show itself, this is just pure gold
You seem to be lumping me in with another poster. I never called you a "Dennis whatever." Hell, for that matter, I've never even claimed that feminism is "the ideological branch of my choice." I do happen to be a feminist, but my "defense" of this this show isn't rooted in feminism. I just quite enjoy how several detractors of the show, yourself included, use the show as a punching bag to hate on whatever elements of feminism they don't agree with. Which is precisely what you're continuing to do with these recent posts, attack the aspects of feminism you don't like under the pretense of using "bad writing" as a justification (and then when pressed about what makes it bad writing, you circle back with it being an angle of feminism you dislike).
This is literally going hand-in-hand with my point that women are not a monolith of thought, that there are disagreements and multiple perspectives within feminism.
I'm sorry but on this site/the internet, that automatically makes you THE. ABSOLUTE. WORST.
Well in that same vein, what makes your opinion on Marvel products, Manchester United or Lauri Markkanen worth a shit? Yet you see it fit to subjugate this forum to them, don't you?
Ive been taking it as theyre making fun of shows with overlycharged political agendas, feminist or otherwise, as well as the people that overreact to that kind of stuff.
It is clearly all satire.
I'm wondering, what's your take on the ending of the latest episode? I mean sure, the awards jab was played for silliness, but what happened after? This was probably the first time they tried to take a feminist topic seriously but you don't mention here, so I'm curious.
To be honest, I almost noted that I was at least curious of the last episode because of the ending, but I didn't want to give credit to the show before it actually did anything interesting. The slut-shaming wasn't really it for me: even if a little more relevant, the Intelligentsia stuff is too much in extension of the "ew, men" facilité and isn't in itself bringing much more. On the other hand, the fact that she hulks up in rage, that could lead to something - if all the dumb jokes and the appeal to the higher-than-thous were leading to the fact that society can't handle a woman that loses control and goes out of her assigned space, I might change my mind (a little).
I agree. I think the majority of these tv show for marvel for new characters won’t have much in terms of future appearances in a marvel movie. Cameo types like we have recently seen.
