GDT: Sharks vs Penguins 7pm Thornton's actual 1000th game in teal no Vlasic

[Alwalys]

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[drunksage]

SNOG announcement​

Sharks 5
Pens 2
Sorensen, Hertl, Pavs, Kane, Meier
Malkin, Crosby, Guentzel

We have one SNOG tonight after applying the goalscorers tiebreaker. Congrats @gaucholoco3 on your first career SNOG!

Spoiler: First Half SNOG Results

#	Date / Opponent	SNOG Winner(s)​	Result
1	Oct. 3 vs Ducks	none	Ducks 5-2
2	Oct. 5 at Kings	PackShark, HOOCH2173, Herschel, Ol Dirty Pirate	Sharks 3-2 OT
3	Oct. 8 at Islanders	none	Islanders 4-0
4	Oct. 9 at Flyers	none	Sharks 8-2
5	Oct. 11 at Rangers	none	Rangers 3-2 OT
6	Oct. 14 at Devils	none	Devils 3-2
7	Oct. 18 vs Sabres	fasterthanlight	Sharks 5-1
8	Oct. 20 vs Islanders	BaileyMacTavish, Kcoyote3	Sharks 4-1
9	Oct. 23 at Predators	none	Sharks 5-4
10	Oct. 26 at Hurricanes	none	Hurricanes 4-3 SO
11	Oct. 28 at Ducks	none	Sharks 4-3 OT
12	Oct. 30 vs Rangers	none	Rangers 4-3 SO
13	Nov. 1 vs Blue Jackets	none	Blue Jackets 4-1
14	Nov. 3 vs Flyers	rangerssharks414	Sharks 4-3 OT
15	Nov. 6 vs Wild	FeedingFrenzy	Sharks 4-3
16	Nov. 8 at Stars	none	Stars 4-3
17	Nov. 9 at Blues	none	Blues 4-0
18	Nov. 11 vs Flames	none	Sharks 3-1
19	Nov. 13 vs Predators	none	Sharks 5-4
20	Nov. 15 vs Maple Leafs	none	Maple Leafs 5-3
21	Nov. 17 vs Blues	none	Sharks 4-0
22	Nov. 20 vs Oilers	none	Oilers 4-3 OT
23	Nov. 23 vs Canucks	none	Sharks 4-0
24	Nov. 24 at Golden Knights	none	Vegas 6-0
25	Nov. 27 at Sabres	SFtoBoston	Sabres 3-2 OT
26	Nov. 28 at Maple Leafs	none	Maple Leafs 5-3
27	Dec. 1 at Senators	none	Senators 6-2
28	Dec. 2 at Canadiens	none	Sharks 3-1
29	Dec. 5 vs Hurricanes	none	Sharks 5-1
30	Dec. 7 at Stars	SJSharksfan39	Stars 3-2
31	Dec. 8 at Coyotes	SJSharksfan39	Sharks 5-3
32	Dec. 10 vs Devils	Bizz, Tkachuk4MVP	Sharks 5-2
33	Dec. 13 vs Stars	HOOCH2173, Insignia	Sharks 3-2
34	Dec. 16 at Blackhawks	none	Sharks 7-3
35	Dec. 18 at Wild	none	Sharks 4-0
36	Dec. 20 vs Jets	none	Jets 5-3
37	Dec. 22 vs Kings	none	Kings 3-2 OT
38	Dec. 23 vs Coyotes	none	Coyotes 4-3 SO
39	Dec. 27 vs Ducks	socalsharksfan, Nolan11	Sharks 4-2
40	Dec. 29 at Oilers	none	Sharks 7-4
41	Dec. 31 at Flames	none	Flames 8-5

[THEAD] [/THEAD]
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Second Half SNOG Results:

#	Date / Opponent	SNOG Winner(s)​	Result
42	Jan. 2 at Avalanche	none	Sharks 5-4
43	Jan. 5 vs Lightning	none	Sharks 5-2
44	Jan. 7 vs Kings	socalsharksfan, seroes	Sharks 3-1
45	Jan. 8 vs Oilers	none	Sharks 7-2
46	Jan. 10 at Golden Knights	HOOCH2173	Sharks 3-2
47	Jan. 12 vs Senators	Insignia	Sharks 4-1
48	Jan. 15 vs Penguins	gaucholoco3	Sharks 5-2

[THEAD] [/THEAD]
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Rank	2018-19 SNOG standings​	# of SNOGs
1.	HOOCH2173	3
T-2.	Insignia, SJSharksfan39, socalsharksfan	2
T-5.	BaileyMacTavish, Bizz, fasterthanlight, FeedingFrenzy, gaucholoco3, Herschel, Kcoyote3, Nolan11, Ol Dirty Pirate, PackShark, rangerssharks414, seroes, SFtoBoston, Tkachuk4MVP	1

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[Quid Pro Clowe]

Game winner for Thornton in his 1000th game as a Shark shortly after Burns got the winner in his 1000th game.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

SNOG announcement​

We have one SNOG tonight after applying the goalscorers tiebreaker. Congrats @gaucholoco3 on your first career SNOG!

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Spoiler: First Half SNOG Results

#	Date / Opponent	SNOG Winner(s)​	Result
1	Oct. 3 vs Ducks	none	Ducks 5-2
2	Oct. 5 at Kings	PackShark, HOOCH2173, Herschel, Ol Dirty Pirate	Sharks 3-2 OT
3	Oct. 8 at Islanders	none	Islanders 4-0
4	Oct. 9 at Flyers	none	Sharks 8-2
5	Oct. 11 at Rangers	none	Rangers 3-2 OT
6	Oct. 14 at Devils	none	Devils 3-2
7	Oct. 18 vs Sabres	fasterthanlight	Sharks 5-1
8	Oct. 20 vs Islanders	BaileyMacTavish, Kcoyote3	Sharks 4-1
9	Oct. 23 at Predators	none	Sharks 5-4
10	Oct. 26 at Hurricanes	none	Hurricanes 4-3 SO
11	Oct. 28 at Ducks	none	Sharks 4-3 OT
12	Oct. 30 vs Rangers	none	Rangers 4-3 SO
13	Nov. 1 vs Blue Jackets	none	Blue Jackets 4-1
14	Nov. 3 vs Flyers	rangerssharks414	Sharks 4-3 OT
15	Nov. 6 vs Wild	FeedingFrenzy	Sharks 4-3
16	Nov. 8 at Stars	none	Stars 4-3
17	Nov. 9 at Blues	none	Blues 4-0
18	Nov. 11 vs Flames	none	Sharks 3-1
19	Nov. 13 vs Predators	none	Sharks 5-4
20	Nov. 15 vs Maple Leafs	none	Maple Leafs 5-3
21	Nov. 17 vs Blues	none	Sharks 4-0
22	Nov. 20 vs Oilers	none	Oilers 4-3 OT
23	Nov. 23 vs Canucks	none	Sharks 4-0
24	Nov. 24 at Golden Knights	none	Vegas 6-0
25	Nov. 27 at Sabres	SFtoBoston	Sabres 3-2 OT
26	Nov. 28 at Maple Leafs	none	Maple Leafs 5-3
27	Dec. 1 at Senators	none	Senators 6-2
28	Dec. 2 at Canadiens	none	Sharks 3-1
29	Dec. 5 vs Hurricanes	none	Sharks 5-1
30	Dec. 7 at Stars	SJSharksfan39	Stars 3-2
31	Dec. 8 at Coyotes	SJSharksfan39	Sharks 5-3
32	Dec. 10 vs Devils	Bizz, Tkachuk4MVP	Sharks 5-2
33	Dec. 13 vs Stars	HOOCH2173, Insignia	Sharks 3-2
34	Dec. 16 at Blackhawks	none	Sharks 7-3
35	Dec. 18 at Wild	none	Sharks 4-0
36	Dec. 20 vs Jets	none	Jets 5-3
37	Dec. 22 vs Kings	none	Kings 3-2 OT
38	Dec. 23 vs Coyotes	none	Coyotes 4-3 SO
39	Dec. 27 vs Ducks	socalsharksfan, Nolan11	Sharks 4-2
40	Dec. 29 at Oilers	none	Sharks 7-4
41	Dec. 31 at Flames	none	Flames 8-5

[THEAD] [/THEAD]
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Second Half SNOG Results:

#	Date / Opponent	SNOG Winner(s)​	Result
42	Jan. 2 at Avalanche	none	Sharks 5-4
43	Jan. 5 vs Lightning	none	Sharks 5-2
44	Jan. 7 vs Kings	socalsharksfan, seroes	Sharks 3-1
45	Jan. 8 vs Oilers	none	Sharks 7-2
46	Jan. 10 at Golden Knights	HOOCH2173	Sharks 3-2
47	Jan. 12 vs Senators	Insignia	Sharks 4-1
48	Jan. 15 vs Penguins	gaucholoco3	Sharks 5-2

[THEAD] [/THEAD]
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Rank	2018-19 SNOG standings​	# of SNOGs
1.	HOOCH2173	3
T-2.	Insignia, SJSharksfan39, socalsharksfan	2
T-5.	BaileyMacTavish, Bizz, fasterthanlight, FeedingFrenzy, gaucholoco3, Herschel, Kcoyote3, Nolan11, Ol Dirty Pirate, PackShark, rangerssharks414, seroes, SFtoBoston, Tkachuk4MVP	1

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You're counting a 5-2 SNOG with three goal scorers called on the 2 end?

 

[TomasHertlsRooster]

I’m seriously worried about the team when Vlasic comes back. Hopefully he doesn’t play tomorrow in Arizona

 

[Sharksfan83]

I think they need to switch a couple things up since that Radil-Couture-Meier line hasn't been working the past five games and the Sorensen-Thornton-Pavelski line needs to be changed up goals from Thornton notwithstanding. Maybe swap Radil and Pavelski and see if something picks up there?

Radil hasn't been that good lately. He's still playing hard but he has missed some fairly easy tap ins and fumbled a fair few pucks that meant they lost the zone..

Kane - Hertl - Donskoi is our best line
Couture - Meier stays together
Thornton - Sorensen stays together (I've liked what Sorensen does with JT)

That leaves a mix of Pavelski, Radil, Goodrow, Labanc, Melker. We really need a top 6 winger for Logans line, as that Thornton line essentially would be an awesome 4th line.. and Pavelski centering the 3rd line with a mix of wingers would be great..

 

[hohosaregood]

Radil hasn't been that good lately. He's still playing hard but he has missed some fairly easy tap ins and fumbled a fair few pucks that meant they lost the zone..

Kane - Hertl - Donskoi is our best line
Couture - Meier stays together
Thornton - Sorensen stays together (I've liked what Sorensen does with JT)

That leaves a mix of Pavelski, Radil, Goodrow, Labanc, Melker. We really need a top 6 winger for Logans line, as that Thornton line essentially would be an awesome 4th line.. and Pavelski centering the 3rd line with a mix of wingers would be great..

Easy move that makes sense to me is switch Pavelski and Radil.

 

[Mafoofoo]

I’m seriously worried about the team when Vlasic comes back. Hopefully he doesn’t play tomorrow in Arizona

The pickle man was just a dry cucumber this season. Right now he’s brining/fermenting and getting his powers back.

 

[Sharksfan83]

It's quite fun playing with forward lines knowing that you dont have to have that difference maker on every line.. We have difference makers from the back end on the ice for 50+ minutes a game.

 

[Fistfullofbeer]

I’m seriously worried about the team when Vlasic comes back. Hopefully he doesn’t play tomorrow in Arizona

I am actually more curious than worried. Both about how Vlasic reacts to the solid team defense we have had with him out of the roster AND how PDB actually utilizes him when he returns. If Vlasic still plays selfish hockey and yet PDB puts him out against tougher comp, then I blame the coach more than I would the player. Especially in light of how much better the team has played without that player.

 

[drunksage]

You're counting a 5-2 SNOG with three goal scorers called on the 2 end?

Good catch.

Haven't seen this situation before. Have seen at least one case where (with the correct score) one too many Sharks goalscorers were named and subtracted one from the tally, but in this case none of the goalscorers on the over-guessed side were correct anyway, so I'm inclined to keep it as-is.

... thoughts, @The Nemesis ?

 

[The Nemesis]

Good catch.

Haven't seen this situation before. Have seen at least one case where (with the correct score) one too many Sharks goalscorers were named and subtracted one from the tally, but in this case none of the goalscorers on the over-guessed side were correct anyway, so I'm inclined to keep it as-is.

... thoughts, @The Nemesis ?

I'd be inclined to take that SNOG as correct since the Pens scorers weren't part of its success. In the event that the Pens scorers were relevant, I would probably trim it down by only counting the first two players guessed to score (in this case eliminating Guentzel)

 

[one2gamble]

Typing 3 goal scorers indicates intent for a 5-3 snog. I move towards disqualification. I'd be inclined for accepting the snog if he forgot a goal scorer.

I'd be inclined to take that SNOG as correct since the Pens scorers weren't part of its success. In the event that the Pens scorers were relevant, I would probably trim it down by only counting the first two players guessed to score (in this case eliminating Guentzel)

5-3

 

[drunksage]

I'd be inclined to take that SNOG as correct since the Pens scorers weren't part of its success. In the event that the Pens scorers were relevant, I would probably trim it down by only counting the first two players guessed to score (in this case eliminating Guentzel)

Thanks.

Typing 3 goal scorers indicates intent for a 5-3 snog. I move towards disqualification. I'd be inclined for accepting the snog if he forgot a goal scorer.

So to fully elaborate on my algorithm, I narrowed it down to anything with 5-2 Sharks and just took that at face value. Two people had that score as their result.

Then for applying tiebreakers, both named five different Sharks, and my named winner had two correct whereas the other person had only one. Neither had any correct Penguins.

If (instead of what transpired) the named winner had predicted a 6th Shark (let's say Burns), I would have not eliminated Burns but instead removed either Sorensen or Hertl. Or more simply, it would be -1 from final goalscorer tally because that was the maximum benefit they could have had by having one extra goalscorer predicted.

So if instead of saying "Malkin, Crosby, Guentzel" they had said "Letang, Crosby, Guentzel," I still would have eliminated Letang (i.e. -1 from final goalscorer tally).

 

[WTFetus]

Thanks.



So to fully elaborate on my algorithm, I narrowed it down to anything with 5-2 Sharks and just took that at face value. Two people had that score as their result.

Then for applying tiebreakers, both named five different Sharks, and my named winner had two correct whereas the other person had only one. Neither had any correct Penguins.

If (instead of what transpired) the named winner had predicted a 6th Shark (let's say Burns), I would have not eliminated Burns but instead removed either Sorensen or Hertl. Or more simply, it would be -1 from final goalscorer tally because that was the maximum benefit they could have had by having one extra goalscorer predicted.

So if instead of saying "Malkin, Crosby, Guentzel" they had said "Letang, Crosby, Guentzel," I still would have eliminated Letang (i.e. -1 from final goalscorer tally).

Looks good. I agree with going by whatever score the poster listed, rather than counting the number of players. Penalties regardless of the order is also a good idea.

 

[Chimpradamus]

I’m seriously worried about the team when Vlasic comes back. Hopefully he doesn’t play tomorrow in Arizona

You know Vlasic has a terrible season when SJ fans hope he'll be out just a while longer. Hopefully the injury has given him some time to contemplate on things and put them in perspective. At this point, he doesn't even need to be a difference maker, he just has to try to chip in and not be an anchor.

Vlasic/ Braun's abscence has proven the other D-men can handle more defensive responsibility, he should give them some easier ice time and nurture them in their struggles (especially Vlasic).

 

[one2gamble]

In more serious news. Is Karl hurt?

 

[TrappedInFullerton]

Did anyone see Erik Karlsson at the end of the game? Didn't notice him out there at all the last 4 mins...

 

[KirbyDots]

In more serious news. Is Karl hurt?

Did anyone see Erik Karlsson at the end of the game? Didn't notice him out there at all the last 4 mins...

 

[TrappedInFullerton]

Oof, don't like that he's needing precaution rests... I guess it's good that long rest is coming for the Sharks'.

 

[Negatively Positive]

Maintenance day= Karlsson is dealing with a minor issue they don't want to disclose.

 

[NWSharkie]

Good catch.

Haven't seen this situation before. Have seen at least one case where (with the correct score) one too many Sharks goalscorers were named and subtracted one from the tally, but in this case none of the goalscorers on the over-guessed side were correct anyway, so I'm inclined to keep it as-is.

... thoughts, @The Nemesis ?

Nobody asked me, but I vote that's a paddlin'.

 

[drunksage]

Nobody asked me, but I vote that's a paddlin'.

Coincidentally, the thing which I had to get back late from offered a free beer shot if you accepted an employee's swing of a paddle to your posterior. I heard the results often, but I didn't bite.

 

[The Nemesis]

Typing 3 goal scorers indicates intent for a 5-3 snog. I move towards disqualification. I'd be inclined for accepting the snog if he forgot a goal scorer.

5-3

I would take the actual listed score as a stronger indication of their intended SNOG score than the # of goal scorers. It's easy to accidentally add or delete a name from your scoring list, but it's less believable that they would intentionally input the wrong score and then list the correct # of scorers (given that the baseline score is the primary SNOG objective.) So a listed 5-2 SNOG with 3 Penguin scorers feels to me like it should be counted as a 5-2 guess, dealing with the goalscorer listings separately, vs counting as a 5-3 one.

If I were charitable, as I was in my original suggestion, I would simply stop counting listed scorers once I'd reached enough to fulfill the guess quota (in our example only allowing the poster to count Crosby and Malkin, but not Guentzel). After all, it is just a silly, fun contest.

but I also do see the merit of Drunksage's idea of penalizing people for extra goalscorers by docking them a correct guess if they have too many names if we believe that the extra scorer is intended to try and sneak an extra tiebreaker in to that poster's favor. It would serve as a stronger reminder to double-check that your submission is valid.

 

[CaptainShark]

What? He was dominate tonight

I really don’t get the smiley