Post-Game Talk: Sharks felled by Canucks | 2-6 | Horvat (2), Pettersson, Mikheyev, Hughes, & Boeser
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CpatainCanuck
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So after that 0-5-2 start to the season, the Canucks are 16-10-1. 
Of course the one game I miss is a blowout win. On our way to 17th overall!
Any TLDR summary posts of the game?
Any TLDR summary posts of the game?
Shareefruck
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Not sure score was truly reflective of the game. Canucks were, at times, very sloppy around their net and it took some real screwups by the Sharks to prevent the score from being a lot more even. Typical of the season - little problem producing some goals (especially considering out lack of PP opportunities) but defensive play all over the map too often. And you can look at certain forwards for much of that.
Good
Horvat - is anyone in the League playing better right now?? Second goal in this one was very high end. Ludicrous how others make some ridiculous trades giving us virtually nothing for him.. If you had any guarantee that he was moving his game up to this elite level on some sort of continuous basis you'd have to look to keep him. Beyond the scoring, for the most part has looked better in his end as well.
Mikheyev - missed a couple of possible goals but there are indications that he is learning to finish off his chances. Very good game and might have been the best player on the ice. Beginning to look like a good off season pick up.
Hughes - just on the goal if nothing else. Rest seems to have done him some good - skating was better.
Myers - solid game. Was the best in his end in breaking up plays and showed some good wheels getting the puck up ice. Not perfect, and never will be, but plays like this and he is a positive.
Garland - hustle never led to much but he had to carry the Miller line. That line had nothing going without Garland. Created a number of turnovers and not his fault they led to nothing
Pettersson - another good two way effort.
Martin - again unsettled around his goal and over reacting and losing his angles. Needs to stay squared up to the play much better. However, he was forced into some very good saves at critical times in the game. HIs play doesn't give you much confidence but somehow he was stopping the puck.
Bear - real good game. Lot of good one on one work and showed his mobility throughout. Moving the puck well coming out of his zone and then getting up to support the play.
Bad
Miller - probably the worst Canuck in this game. Defensive game was dreadful and good indication he can't be used at center. Couldn't get there much of the time and mishandled the puck throughout.
Lazar - playing way too far up the lineup. I guess he is suppose to provide some board work and defensive presence - (certainly isn't going to give you any offense - 2 points in 23 games) However work in his own end was bad and he left his side open much of the time. Also, he wasn't getting back to help the defense by channeling people out of the middle on the ice. Point was always open. If Podkolzin is brought back up he should be the first guy coming out of the lineup.
Stillman - decent first period but then started getting beat at the blue line. By the third was back to stumbling around his end.
Others
Boeser - a passenger much of the night on the Horvat line. Still he did make an effort defensively and picked up some points.
Kuzmenko - played a lot in spurts and had some trouble getting the puck out of his end. Major league play on the assist on Mikheyev goal
Team seems to settling into the middle of the pack and likely a couple points out of the playoffs. Can forget. I think, getting one top guns out of the draft. Like usual got to settle back and enjoy the ride, recognizing the long term needs of the team won't be realized.
Good
Horvat - is anyone in the League playing better right now?? Second goal in this one was very high end. Ludicrous how others make some ridiculous trades giving us virtually nothing for him.. If you had any guarantee that he was moving his game up to this elite level on some sort of continuous basis you'd have to look to keep him. Beyond the scoring, for the most part has looked better in his end as well.
Mikheyev - missed a couple of possible goals but there are indications that he is learning to finish off his chances. Very good game and might have been the best player on the ice. Beginning to look like a good off season pick up.
Hughes - just on the goal if nothing else. Rest seems to have done him some good - skating was better.
Myers - solid game. Was the best in his end in breaking up plays and showed some good wheels getting the puck up ice. Not perfect, and never will be, but plays like this and he is a positive.
Garland - hustle never led to much but he had to carry the Miller line. That line had nothing going without Garland. Created a number of turnovers and not his fault they led to nothing
Pettersson - another good two way effort.
Martin - again unsettled around his goal and over reacting and losing his angles. Needs to stay squared up to the play much better. However, he was forced into some very good saves at critical times in the game. HIs play doesn't give you much confidence but somehow he was stopping the puck.
Bear - real good game. Lot of good one on one work and showed his mobility throughout. Moving the puck well coming out of his zone and then getting up to support the play.
Bad
Miller - probably the worst Canuck in this game. Defensive game was dreadful and good indication he can't be used at center. Couldn't get there much of the time and mishandled the puck throughout.
Lazar - playing way too far up the lineup. I guess he is suppose to provide some board work and defensive presence - (certainly isn't going to give you any offense - 2 points in 23 games) However work in his own end was bad and he left his side open much of the time. Also, he wasn't getting back to help the defense by channeling people out of the middle on the ice. Point was always open. If Podkolzin is brought back up he should be the first guy coming out of the lineup.
Stillman - decent first period but then started getting beat at the blue line. By the third was back to stumbling around his end.
Others
Boeser - a passenger much of the night on the Horvat line. Still he did make an effort defensively and picked up some points.
Kuzmenko - played a lot in spurts and had some trouble getting the puck out of his end. Major league play on the assist on Mikheyev goal
Team seems to settling into the middle of the pack and likely a couple points out of the playoffs. Can forget. I think, getting one top guns out of the draft. Like usual got to settle back and enjoy the ride, recognizing the long term needs of the team won't be realized.
I don't know what you're wanting here. For better or worse the team started the season badly, yes. Literally all they can do is improve, and they have.
What it looks like to me is you're just annoyed about the positive vibes going on. You've been the same poster here for many years: you're in your element when doom and gloom is most prevalent.
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Yep. I said on the main boards they're my bet to get him. Everyone's talking about Columbus and Colorado but I think Boston is in a situation where they NEED him the most. The fact they can still rely on Bergeron to be such a high level of player is a blessing that they probably know they can't take for granted. Any time now he needs to be replaced and they haven't got anyone in the system remotely close to being a 1st or 2nd line C for them (maybe they do, I'm not too familiar with their youth and prospects).
vadim sharifijanov
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i know exactly the goal that prompted the comp
that’s two conn smythe winning hall of fame defencemen he dangles out of yheir jockstrap while a third conn smythe winner just stands there watching, going, nah, no way i have a chance of catching that dude.
A guy who caught my eye in this game was Jack Studnicka.....that line with Aman and Joshua was a load for the Sharks all game long.
Canucks may have something in this kid. His skating is far better that advertised. In fact at times he was flying around in the Sharks zone, showing another gear. And he's relentless on the puck. I also noted that as the game wore on, Boudreau had him taking some faceoffs, since center is his natural position.
He's getting one or two quality chances every game, but no puck luck. Still, Studnicka is looking like a nice pickup by Allvin. He's definitely not a guy who belongs in the AHL.
Canucks may have something in this kid. His skating is far better that advertised. In fact at times he was flying around in the Sharks zone, showing another gear. And he's relentless on the puck. I also noted that as the game wore on, Boudreau had him taking some faceoffs, since center is his natural position.
He's getting one or two quality chances every game, but no puck luck. Still, Studnicka is looking like a nice pickup by Allvin. He's definitely not a guy who belongs in the AHL.
I'd honestly be more comfortable giving Horvat $56 million going forward than JT Miller. This is the first time in his career he has played with competent wingers and he's been nothing short of amazing, letting him walk or traded would really seal the deal with me with how much I will support this team going forward.
If that happens, I'm actually done. My fandom is hanging on by a thread as it is so it's not like it's even unrealistic that I would kick the team to the curb in my life.
Well, we're about to go through the grinder, so the people who somehow think that losing streak at the beginning of the year is well past us, just wait.
Our upcoming schedule is @ Jets, @ Flames, vs Islanders, vs Avs, @ Jets, @ Pens, @ Lightning, @ Panthers, @ Canes, vs Lightning, vs Avs, vs Oilers. 12 games against playoff teams. Consecutively. I honestly only see 3 wins max in there.
Our upcoming schedule is @ Jets, @ Flames, vs Islanders, vs Avs, @ Jets, @ Pens, @ Lightning, @ Panthers, @ Canes, vs Lightning, vs Avs, vs Oilers. 12 games against playoff teams. Consecutively. I honestly only see 3 wins max in there.
Mr. Canucklehead
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Lets just win every single game and pass all of these teams in the standings
Unfortunately, that decision was made back in the summer when they extended JT, and has only been hammered even further home by Horvat's production. There's just no way to make it work unless we can shed some major contracts.
Too bad real life isn't like Be a GM where you can take over mid simulation for your team, we'd be undefeated
At this rate the return should be large for Bo which should help ease seeing him on another team.
I got caught up in the hype train last year and saw the Vancouver Canucks barely miss & draft 15th. There is no reason to do that again especially when some moves can set the table up for the future
DL44
Status quo
16-15-3
5 gm segments:
0-3-2
2-3-0
2-2-1
3-2-0
3-2-0
3-2-0
3-1-0
10 gm segments:
2-6-2
5-4-1
6-4-0
3-1-0
7-3-0 in last 10
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7 game series theory...
0-5-2
4-2-1
4-3-0
4-3-0
4-2-0
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Wins - Reg Losses
VGK +12, LA +8, Sea +8
Dal +12, Wpg +9, Min +8
Col +7
Edm+4
Cgy +3
Van +1
Nas EVEN
StL EVEN
5 gm segments:
0-3-2
2-3-0
2-2-1
3-2-0
3-2-0
3-2-0
3-1-0
10 gm segments:
2-6-2
5-4-1
6-4-0
3-1-0
7-3-0 in last 10
-------
7 game series theory...
0-5-2
4-2-1
4-3-0
4-3-0
4-2-0
-------
Wins - Reg Losses
VGK +12, LA +8, Sea +8
Dal +12, Wpg +9, Min +8
Col +7
Edm+4
Cgy +3
Van +1
Nas EVEN
StL EVEN
DL44
Status quo
BoeserUnfortunately, that decision was made back in the summer when they extended JT, and has only been hammered even further home by Horvat's production. There's just no way to make it work unless we can shed some major contracts.
Too bad real life isn't like Be a GM where you can take over mid simulation for your team, we'd be undefeated
DL44
Status quo
Not Boeser...Unfortunately, that decision was made back in the summer when they extended JT, and has only been hammered even further home by Horvat's production. There's just no way to make it work unless we can shed some major contracts.
Too bad real life isn't like Be a GM where you can take over mid simulation for your team, we'd be undefeated
Myers...
Basically I feel they will find a way...
Nucker101
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Now take away every other team's worst stretch of the season and redo the standings
DL44
Status quo
Didn't feel like looking it up further...
But Flames went from 5-1-0 to 5-6-2...
Oilers went 2-5 at one point...
Basically.. you're right... Can't cherry pick..
But hey.. there is something to trends..
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Yeah the worst stretch still counts (obviously) but timing does matter in terms of how people should or indeed do feel about it. Starting strong and then losing 7 in a row feels worse than losing 7 than doing better. Also the latter is more indicative of recent play and more likely to continue than the former. Have we won a lot in regulation? No, but we are winning and having Petey back has been fun to watch.
